Surgery issues

[Byron]

Dry same as wet, but without ejaculate (think back pre-puberty)

(wise to be careful on the Viagra Sebbie - don't want BP shooting up)

[sebbie]

As one of the nurses said it is possible to have an orgasm without having either an erection or liquid semen. If you ever experiment with seeing how fast you can have an orasm w/o having a firm erection you would have a good idea as to what they feel like w/o an erection. The nerve endings are not as sensitive, but they are still a lot of fun. You cant tell there is no semen if you don't look. I'm doing a study on penis since in my recovery. Flaccid, I am only about 2 3/4 inches. Before surgery I was about 6 inches. Currently, after one of these dry orgasms I am at about 4 inches. I think this is some improvement from just after surgery, but I am hoping for further gains. I miss my Cowpers the most, and the things it was able to do, but sadly, that is gone for good.

[Byron]

This may assist your readers Sebbie : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...le_anatomy.png

[sebbie]

I'm doing pretty well now. My hip feels all but perfect, and I am back to 90 minutes of stationary rowing and weights a day. My weight is back to the normat 146 lbs.

My erections have yet to fully return, but I continue to be hopeful. Its interesting to try and come up with ways to have fun without a full erection!

[Byron]

A return to exercise without pain sounds like good news Sebbie and your research on fun without a full erection will be worth an academic paper for worldwide distribution !

[sebbie]

I got to noticing yesterday when I was slightly aroused that there was a tiny strand of clear stuff running down from my penis, with a slightly larger "drop" at the end. I said to myself "that certainly looks like a tiny strand of my much beloved precum, from the Cowpers gland. But I thought I had lost my Cowpers gland when the prostate and the seminal vescicles were removed durning surgery.

Turns out, probably not. I found several blogs that address the specific issue by those who have had prostate surgery. Apparently the Cowpers gland is located downstream, well away from where the prostate is positioned, and the cowpers is not normally removed during surgery. There are many other guys reporting that they are getting dry orgasms post surgery with the exception of precum.

For me, having an intact Cowpers gland is one major key in getting back to resally enjoying myself. I did not realize all of this before as I was leaking too much uriine when I got sexually aroused post surgery, which was washing away the precum before it had a chance to form in drops. And I am starting to once again sense that really great-feeling tension I always felt at the initial stages of arousal I have always associated with a Cowpers gland springing into action.

This is going to take some time. I'm 5 months out of surgery. The data I read last night says that 37 percent of those who have had surgery similar to mine get an erection back in 12 months, but 67% in 24 months. Of the remainder, some were hot getting an erection prior to surgery, and some had too much nerve damage done during surgery, but the latter case is often guys who had much more complicated tumors to remove than I had.

Stay tuned. I'm glad I have all the different methods available for self- stimulation at my disposal. I can now proiceed carefully and at my own pace w/o concern with respect to a partner. My white aqux swim briefs were veru useful last night :-). Stuff is starting to happen for me (again).

[Dooley67]

I hardly know you Sebbie, from being on the board only a couple of months, but I've been following your recovery and I'm happy for you that things are beginning to improve. Hopefully you will steady improvement as time passes. Five months is not a long time post surgery and you appear to be very patient and happy when you notice small positive changes. I look forward to hearing more about your successes.

D67

[sebbie]

I think I need to run some experiments this evening with a combination employing a nice snug suit and my vibrator, on the order of something like what was being done in the video to that Japanese guy. I'm starting to feel some real tension in the groin area again post surgery, and I need to try some stunts to see exactly where this all leads.

I never cease to be amazed at the sensations I discover in the "research."

[sebbie]

My choice of suit for last night was that really tiny little yellow Seobean I had purchased at Christmas. Good lord its tiny and tight-fitting, its the smallest thing I have in my suit wardrobe. I immedisately went into a mode of involuntarily discharging a small urine stream just thinking about how I would feel getting myself into it. (When you lose your prostate, you also lose the muscles that shut off urine flow when you get aroused, and any urine left in your badder just streams out. There is another muscle that controls urine flow from the bladder that shuts this off under anything but sexual arousal conditions) Interestingly, when I get aroused like that, this is the only time when I have a "leakage" like that. Pretty much, in the old days I would be seeping lots of precum at this point instead. I am starting to learn how to deal with this. Keep a towel or two handy One partial solution is to just let it go for awhile before putting on the suit. Then I will be dry or nearly so.

Once I got into the suit, a tiny drop of precum appeared to form at the tip of my penis, staining the suit.

At that point I started up the electric vibrator, with my penis positioned "up in the little suit" Even only slightly hard, the sensations were nothing short of physicaly and psychologically amazing. The problem is that I think I pushed everything a little too fast. It was only a minute or so when I went into an intense dry orgasm. This orgasm was quite dry, with no more urine leakage.

Next time I try, I want to slow everything down a bit, partly in hopes of getting a little stronger erection in more time before I go off into orgasm. If I can slow things down I am convinced the orgasm will be even more intense. And I do want to try this again and soon.

On the plus side, I'm learning specific ways to still have a lot of fun even without a prostate. My penis still feels great only a little bit hard with the vibrator attacking it on the underside, I'm gradually learning new applied techniques to deal with the initial urine leakage problem.

What I did last evening was pretty intense and focused, but interesting research for me. Hitting the underside of your penis with a vibrator when your penis is positioned up in a tiny little suit like the Seobean is about as intense as it gets, and a good thing to try to see what happens even if you still have an intact prostate.

I recognize that sexual arousal is a very individualized thing. In particular not everyone enjoys getting off in a tiny suit as much as I do. How this all would work with a partner, I don't know. In that situation there would be some tricky curves to negotiateI am sure.

But, did I enoy myself sexually post surgery? Absolutely! This is wild and crazy fun to see exactly what your body is capable of absorbing even when a few key parts are missing.

Disclaimer: With my comments here I do not wish to gross any of you out.The urology surgeon doing the prostate removal tries to do a good job of explaining exactly what the side effects will be relative to how things operated prior to surgery. And the patient normally lacks the nerve to provide specific details on how he was getting off pre-surgery anyway.

In my case, I did manage to pass along a copy of my Amazon book "Understanding Male Sexuality" to the surgeon before the surgery, however, so he kinda knew some of the stuff I am into.

Having an intense orgasm is a huge gift to being human, and I highly recommend running some self-experiments to see what your body is capable of doing for you. What you learn can also intensify partner sex. Even in my situation, I am having great fun.

David Sebringsil "Sebbie"

[SwimTeamSpeedo]

Sebbie, interesting series of posts. I am glad you are finding the exploration of your body's ability to respond exciting. The male body is a fascinating machine. More important, glad you are doing well. I enjoy the detail and factual explanations in your posts.

Ryan