Facts and acceptance

[Byron]

map should be http://www.definitivecaribbean.com/caribbean-map

[NJHunkguy]

Originally Posted by Byron

map should be http://www.definitivecaribbean.com/caribbean-map

Thanks for your clarification. It was my mistake.

But still, according to the internet, "even though it is legal in Dominican Republic, there is still major discrimination against LGBT members of the society. This is mainly due to the strict Catholic status of the country. Although homosexuality is not generally accepted, hate crimes are rare as they are prosecutable under Dominican law. "

Although it was my mistake, still, it was that cruise ship incident made me learn and search about the status among these islands. Made me careful, if I ever go there for vacations.

[Byron]

The Cayman Islands have attitude* but not law, being a British Overseas Territory.

*Cruise ship Leeward refused permission to enter in 1998:
http://www.frommers.com/destinations...177028778.html

[JamesSwim]

Originally Posted by California Dolphin

Here's a practical idea:

If you can't find speedo style swim suits or short running shorts in the main stream outlets (Like Macy's, Sears, Old Navy, Gap, etc.) try sending them an email that your looking for something else other than the long & baggy stuff and you would be happy to patronize their store if they would offer some real choice.

Every store has a "Contact" link on their home page and it's an easy way to voice your opinion about what you do and don't like about their product line. If they get enough complaints about the lack of choice, they'll probably start offering something more than the status quo.
CD

Actually buying from the stores send a good message to the buyers than writing to them.

I found that department stores tend to sell fashion swimwear while sporting good stores sell suits for lap swimmers. But department stores web sites also carry briefs and some carry it in real stores. I saw Boss-brand briefs and short trunks from Marc Jacobs in Nordstrom. Zara and H&M also carry short trunks. Late in the season, like in July, they won't have much left but may be on sale.

On Macy's web site, you can see Speedo-brand and 2(X)ist suits. Calvin Klein started to make men's brief suits that Macy's carries (I saw a full page ad of those the briefs in the NY Times)

[California Dolphin]

Hi JamesSwim

Thanks for the advice. I'll have to drop by some of the major department chains here in S.F. and pick up a few suits.

A rather clever improvement on your idea would be to buy several suits each from a different retailer. That would give the illusion that the market for brief style suits is bigger than it actually is!!!

CD

[notmyj]

Abercrombie is even getting on the band wagon of smaller swim suits. They have some short leg swim shorts on their website. Since they are pretty mainstream in the us and are typically 2 years ahead, it could be "normal" to have thigh length swim shorts that aren't so baggy in the US soon. Keep the faith, its coming! Lol

[Byron]

Maybe white T shirt man should consider very carefully his holiday cruise destination?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...rfko1_1280.jpg

[Byron]

Let's hope it's coming but here's the HuffPost with some hype of exactly two years ago (and 13 pretty uninspiring pics of some overpriced products from Milan)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...=Dolce_Gabbana

[NJHunkguy]

Originally Posted by Byron

Maybe white T shirt man should consider very carefully his holiday cruise destination?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...rfko1_1280.jpg

Funny !

[NJHunkguy]

Originally Posted by Byron

Let's hope it's coming but here's the HuffPost with some hype of exactly two years ago (and 13 pretty uninspiring pics of some overpriced products from Milan)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...=Dolce_Gabbana

Hot stuff on the runway! Well, making my suits looking outdated