What do speedo lovers fear the most (aged)

[Byron]

Here is the twink - Nicholas Hoult - funnily enough another English actor born not many miles from CF.
(the best pic available as the YouTube trailer is pretty useless):

http://www.ohlalamag.com/.a/6a00e54f...5d5e1970c-80wi

American artist Don Bachardy still lives in Isherwood's California home and also had a cameo part in the movie as a fellow professor.
He is a portrait artist however and I am sure your reference to nude young guys in pools in California means the English artist David Hockney.

[Crail]

I'm old enough to remember the king's speech difficulties during the Christmas Day radio broadcasts. Colin Firth portrayed him marvelously.

[Byron]

Agree (I believe BBC engineers helped out with a bit of editing on those).
First started by George V in 1932 I think - on the miracle of that new invention, the wireless.




Btw, the link on pic for the twinky student in the Single Man movie doesn't seem to perform so I got him here instead: http://imabeautygeek.com/wp-content/...Single-Man.jpg

[Byron]

Does CFS recognise the scene?
http://www.ohlalamag.com/en/2008/11/...rds-movie.html




(David Hockney - Sunbather : 1966 )
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5134/5...b1b0e06075.jpg

[CalifFitnessSwimmer]

"American artist Don Bachardy still lives in Isherwood's California home and also had a cameo part in the movie as a fellow professor.
He is a portrait artist however and I am sure your reference to nude young guys in pools in California means the English artist David Hockney."

Oh dear - I'm starting to get "senior" moments where I confuse writers and painters. You're right, it was David Hockney I was thinking of.

You don't hear about the Isherwood generation so much anymore, I wonder how many young guys know of him or have read him.

He was one of the few "together" out, gay men writing years ago.

I don't want to discourage anyone from seeing "A Single Man." It's not bad going on its own terms but doesn't measure up to Isherwood writing.

The film plays a bit like a gay early 60's drama filmed with "Mad Men" period correct sets and the same slow pacing.

There's some great scene with Julianne Moore that breathe some life into the picture.

[Byron]

LOL - being a bit of a David Hockney* fan you rang a bell (or even some cheems - a joke which only Louis will understand).

You also prompted me to find this so they obviously all knew each other
(acrylic on canvas 1968)
http://www.hockneypictures.com/image...achardy_68.jpg

*Once bumped into him in a London bookshop very many years ago just as he was becoming famous and said I liked his work. He was very courteous.
He loves the southern California light for painting but has returned to UK to do some rather more sombre Yorkshire landscapes in recent times.


Here is the trailer for Chris and Don, a Love Story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTSSX-HbJ4g
(I have never heard DB speak before - almost English - could be the
Isherwood influence perhaps).

A truly remarkable tale and especially so for being an out relationship at that time (right wing bigoted preachers of the 21st century please note).

I believe it all started from a meeting on a Malibuu beach in '53 or '54
and an enduring partnership ensued despite an age difference of 30 years.

Sadly you are right - it would be hard to find today anyone who has read much if any of Isherwood's output.

[Byron]

LOL - being a bit of a David Hockney* fan you rang a bell (or even some cheems - a joke which only Louis will understand).

You also prompted me to find this so they obviously all knew each other
(acrylic on canvas 1968)
http://www.hockneypictures.com/image...achardy_68.jpg

*Once bumped into him in a London bookshop very many years ago just as he was becoming famous and said I liked his work. He was very courteous.
He loves the southern California light for painting but has returned to UK to do some rather more sombre Yorkshire landscapes in recent times.


Here is the trailer for Chris and Don, a Love Story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTSSX-HbJ4g
(I have never heard DB speak before - almost English - could be the
Isherwood influence perhaps).

A truly remarkable tale and especially so for being an out relationship at that time (right wing bigoted preachers of the 21st century please note).

I believe it all started from a meeting on a Malibuu beach in '53 or '54
and an enduring partnership ensued despite an age difference of 30 years.

Sadly you are right - it would be hard to find today anyone who has read much if any of Isherwood's output.

[Byron]

a double post seems to have come up above and the painting should be
http://www.hockneypictures.com/image...achardy_68.jpg

[CalifFitnessSwimmer]

I've already queued the BBC "Christopher and his Kind" movie and "Chris and Don" on Netflix. Thanks for the info.

I know someone who writes history books who called Isherwood once years ago. He just picked up the phone and there was "Herr Ishyvoo" on the phone.

My first gay bar experience happened to be in Berlin more than 30 years ago -- this was before the Berlin Wall came down. It was a summer studying German and Berlin was this odd place where most people didn't want to live but it attracted all kinds of gays and other outcasts living cheaply and outrageously. So my first experience of out, outrageous homosexuality was with German speaking Berliners, although this was before I had seen Cabaret and read Isherwood. By day it was sausages and incredible German pastries and by night it was steins of beer and kinky sex bars with kind of the "Kit-Kat" vibe.

On a slightly different note I regretted that I was in L.A. while there was a restrospective of Hockney's paintings but I didn't find out until the exhibit was over. I couldn't believe I missed that one, oh well.

Remember when it seemed like it was possible to read every "gay" book and see every "gay" movie? The gay world seemed smaller and part of it had such a literary vibe. Someone told me even Fire Island was kind of a quiet artist sort of place before it turned into a drugged, partying nightclub scene. It's kind of a shame young gay guys only encounter the bar scene and associate that with young gay life. I was living in Greenwich Village when Auden was still alive and had his apartment in the East Village. For some reason Auden and Isherwood went different ways after being so close when they were younger.

I suppose gay studies majors are the only ones who read these writers.

P.S. You can delete duplicate messages -- I made the same mistake.

[Torchwatch]

The first time i read Stephen Spender's The Temple was before I had had any kind of gay experience and although I found the book a good read I didn't fully understand it.
The freedom he found in pre war Germany compared to Britain where homosexual acts were banned was extraordinary (I realised when i reread the book). Then he returned to Germany during Hitler's rise to power and found everything changed and frightening.
There was a limited number of gay books because writing them ostracised one from society and could land you in prison.

Alfred Lord Tennyson was gay (at least bi) and wrote In Memoriam at the death of Hallam. Tennyson is Known to have stayed with Lord Conway at Allington Castle and is thought to have written The Brook there. I have found the brook it may be based upon just across the river.
I have even swum in the River Medway there in my Speedos.

Do Speedos and a life jacket look good together?