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sebbie 09-19-2017 10:50 PM

I corrected that... Been watching Big Valley reruns, which included a young Linda Evans. It was Linda Gray's leg in the famous poster for "The Graduate"not Anne Bancroft's. :-)

sebbie 09-20-2017 05:43 PM

The “Blue Swim Brief” dilemma…
 
The Internet photos showing Christopher Atkins wearing a royal blue Speedo® swim brief pose a whole series of interesting questions. The first of these issues relates to the fact that what you are seeing are stills from a network television show, albeit when TV was not being broadcast in HD. Still, that Atkins’ male anatomy under the shiny blue swimsuit was readily visible could not have been lost on the show’s producers.

Network television is highly regulated not only with respect to foul language, but also barring anything that would be considered a bit pornographic. Maybe the censors simply assumed that any detail here would be on the screen for just a second or two quickly gone (this is TV, for goodness sakes), or would be completely lost in the low definition of broadcast TV then.

At the time the Dallas show aired, Christopher Atkins already had quite a reputation for his sexual escapades in the movie, “the Blue Lagoon”, and that movie had been very successful at the box office, largely on the looks and bodies of the two stars, Brook Shields and Christopher Atkins, marooned and cavorting in and out of their clothes on a deserted tropical island. That movie was released in 1980, and Atkins probably had just turned 18 when it was filmed (although he looked somewhat younger than that).

The Dallas episodes featuring Atkins (Played as a character named Peter Richards, a fine name choice given the Speedo photos. Also, the Atkins character in the Blue Lagoon had a first name of Richard, so somehow the name “Peter Richards” seemed completely logical and fitting) aired in 1984. Atkins (Peter Richards) was probably 22 years old when the Dallas episodes were filmed.

One would not have expected Dallas to hire Atkins with the idea that he would now be fully clothed in all the episodes, and the story line making Peter Richards a camp counselor who taught the young campers how to swim was perfect. Besides, Network TV is all about getting the ratings, and presumably seeing Peter Richards, clad only in a blue Speedo and a semi hard-on, would send the (mainly female) viewers into a frenzy. That had to be good for the show’s ratings. And, six years into its run, a lot of the Dallas plot lines had already been explored. J.R. Ewing, had already had affairs with most of the rest of the female cast, usually a different cast member in each episode, but the idea of Sue Ellen, JR’s wife and Linda Gray’s character, having an affair with the young and semi-erect and Speedo-clad Peter Richards was just too good to pass up.

The stills of the episodes showing Peter Richards in his semi-enlarged condition on the Internet have all been captured and preserved for posterity. I have no idea whether or not females still find these photos to be sexually arousing. I would think so, but I do not know that for a fact.

The other question is what do the guys think of these photos, and, in particular, do guys find them in any way interesting and perhaps even arousing? I suppose that many of my readers think that the answer to that question would depend on whether the guy seeing the photos is straight or gay, with gay guys finding them arousing but straight guys not.

That would be a simple analysis, but I think that oversimplifies to the point of being inaccurate. If you have been reading my stories this far, you no doubt realize that I am very aware of the fact that the underside of a guy’s penis is almost invariably more sensitive to touch than the other sides, and as a guy gets erect this effect only increases. Second, the slick fabric of the royal blue swim brief touching the penis underside should only increase the sensations, but especially so if the guy is semi-erect, as Peter is in the photos.

Finally, there is something really interesting seeing another guy in this condition and position wearing a swim brief. One might think that this would clearly be a “gay thing”. In other words, gay guys might think this is arousing but straight guys, being perfectly straight, would not This is some of the same stuff Josh and Dylan have been trying to cope with in the story. A particular item of clothing such as a bright blue swim brief, semi-hard, penis pointed up, might be sexually arousing for me, but if I know you, my buddy, in a similar condition, similarly clad, is also experiencing something similar that must be equally arousing for him, the fun for both of us is doubled, tripled, or even quadrupled.

Is this just a gay male thing, or does this somehow also apply to most guys who claim to be straight? That is a fascinating question to pose. I hold the view that this is all nearly universal among all guys, but I cannot prove it. If my view is right, this is not just a gay thing at all. There is a lot more going on here than that. If I could figure this all out, I would be able to find the answer to the basic question as to why guys are often attracted to the idea of wearing a swim brief and yet very fearful. Does a guy worry that he will somehow look like Peter Richards and then what? Does this fear turn into repulsion? Women who object to men wearing swim briefs seem to really have a core objection to seeing the covered male anatomy under the brief. But are they being turned on at the same time, and is the turn-on that they find at once fun and exciting but somehow repulsive?

Complicated questions, all.

To be continued…

sebbie 09-23-2017 08:48 PM

A sweet place to be….
 
I was thinking of continuing on a theme focusing on Royal Blue Speedos® and the great fun a guy can have with his penis in an “up” position pressed against the slick blue cloth, but, every once and awhile I need to stop and instead try some ideas to make certain that they work as well as my stories say they do.

I have been writing at length about Dylan, Josh, Bill and Joe and the items of clothing that they have been wearing that lead to a sweet place of arousal, the kind of arousal that does not quickly culminate in an orgasm. If you stop and think about it, this is the theme of all of these stories, stories that focus on the basic idea that the longer a guy can remain aroused without getting off, the more fun the overall experience will be, and the more enjoyable the orgasm will be when the guy finally does reach that point.

I guess a lot of guys do not think in these terms, I’ve noted over and over the pressure guys are under to get any masturbation over as quickly as possible so as to minimize the chance of being “discovered” doing it, and how this need for speed works against the pure enjoyment a guy should be having from being aroused

Of course, a guy’s mind is very much a part of all of this. Once a guy is aroused, the urge to ejaculate does not simply remain constant or stable. Indeed, a guy’s brain is being bombarded with signals from his body of the imminent urge to ejaculate. Simply coping with all of this becomes something of a struggle, though a very interesting struggle to be sure.

Now, a guy wearing a royal blue Speedo® at a pool or in another public setting, even in a semi-erect, penis-up situation, is also in a situation whereby he cannot get off without creating a potentially very embarrassing situation, and he knows that. Feeling that slick blue Speedo rubbing against the underside of your penis is terrific fun, but not the kind of fun that can be readily relieved. Somehow, the guy, while enjoying himself, still has to cope with the external situation he is in. And the mere act of learning how to cope is in itself part of the fun.

Anyone who has been following my stories here realizes that while I enjoy wearing Swim briefs, this is not the only situation I find fun to be in. As you might suspect by reading about Bill and Joe, another long time favorite of mine involves a snug fitting pair of men’s thong underwear, and an athletic supporter with a little hard cup. And, of course, over the top of all of this comes a pair of compression shorts. Some of you will probably say that was the same thing Bill and Joe wore when they went to bed in their dorm room. And Dylan and Josh have been experimenting with some of these items too.

What is it about these items that somehow “do it” for me (and for my story characters)? I guess I have long known that I have a “thing” for an assortment of snug-fitting clothing items. But is that all this is about, or is there more going on here? I’ve thought a lot about that. Is this just me, or would other guys likely be similarly “affected”? Well, guys do not normally talk to each other about such stuff.

So, today I decided to mess around a little and run some experiments. What I especially like about thong underwear is the way the best thongs not only push my penis upward and forward, but also provide a special “kick” in the perineum area that is directly below a guy’s prostate just behind his balls. Then there is the feel of the thong back cutting between the glutes. What might seem initially more than a little uncomfortable suddenly morphs into a wonderful combination of erotic sensations—sensations not to be missed, in my view.

Then, over the thong, its tough to beat a slightly undersized old school athletic supporter complete with an undersized hard jock cup. The neat thing about this is that the thong wants to push a guy’s penis forward and up, while the snug fitting cup wants to press inward and downward. The only way this can resolve itself is for the penis to press up against the largely immovable hard cup.

Penises can be a little weird. They want desperately to take up whatever space is made available to them, yet they seem to somehow know exactly where the limits are. In this case, of course, the penis cannot expand beyond the walls of the hard cup. Yet it doesn’t find where these walls are without getting just big enough to find out exactly where the walls of the cup are located.

Then of course, a pair of compression shorts hold everything in place co the cup can be moved around only a little in an effort to find a more “comfortable place to be.

So today, I decided to run some experiments, starting with a little cotton thong, covering that with a neat Franklin® strap with a cop small enough to barely accommodate my male anatomy, just the right size in my view. Then I found my old pair of Nike Compression shorts, which nicely held the cup in place just where I wanted it to be.

Then, of course, I had to go through my exercise program involving 30 minutes on a stationary rower, weights and then another 30 minutes on the stationary bike. I was feeling horny through the entire workout, but sometimes more so. The neat thing about all of this is that my overall arousal level remained high, although I did not get to a point where ejaculation was imminent. The workout time flew. An exercise workout CAN be quite enjoyable if you can figure out a way to stay horny but unrelieved through the entire workout I still have another 30 minutes to go on a different stationary rower…I’m feeling really really horny just thinking about all of this, but I want to stay with that and be unrelieved for now at least.

Would you find this fun too? Good question.

To be continued…

dm106 09-23-2017 09:10 PM

I can tell you from my swim team days as a teen, pointing up in the speedo did to me exactly what you are describing to the tee. Very hard to maintain control but I was several years younger than these guys in your story.

sebbie 09-24-2017 11:45 AM

Morning-After Addendum
 
Sometimes I don’t quite realize or appreciate what I have accomplished and whether or not what I am doing was successful or not until the next day, and such was the case for the events that transpired yesterday. I would be the first to admit that sexual arousal involves a crazy mixed up combination on the sheer physical sensations and the psychological, and without both in place it becomes difficult if not impossible for a guy to enjoy himself (his body). Now exactly what the specific combination involves is different for each guy and may involve a sexual partner, or not. I admit that I am always seeking out highly enjoyable schemes for playing with myself that do not involve all of the additional complexities of dealing with a partner for sex. I see nothing wrong with that at all, and indeed, that is part of the pure pleasure of the situation.

If the same or similar ideas work in a partner relationship, with both participants enjoying themselves and each other, I am all for that. But, I would argue that what I enjoy doing is available to every guy whether he has a sexual partner or not.

I woke up this morning with my mind fixated on how much fun I had yesterday and also looking forward to doing it all again and as soon as possible. One of the issues with the whole idea is that you have to have a significant block of time where you are not likely to be distracted with non-sexual thoughts and feelings. I would be the first to admit that some days are simply too busy for me in dealing with normal issues and problems that I would be unable to focus on the sheer intensity of what I was doing yesterday.

I am also a firm believer (no pun intended) that every guy should develop a routine that includes some physical form of exercise. I tend to approach this in the same manner I approach everything else. Part of what works for me is that my exercise does not involve playing in sports in competition with other guys…from the standpoint of sexual pleasure the idea of playing a competitive sport becomes merely a distraction that would not permit my mind to be in the places where I know I want it to be.

So, my daily workouts nowadays involve two thirty-minute sessions on two quite different stationary rowing machines, 30 minutes on a stationary bike, plus lifting weights on a machine (only about 10 minutes of the daily workout. This steady plan day after day could easily get to be boring, except, of course a couple of things. The first idea is that I have a TV I can watch during the longer periods. But, even on cable, some of the shows can get pretty boring.

That’s where the “gear” comes in. Wearing the proper gear, specifically the kind of stuff I know is certain to make me feel horny as I row and bike, my entire exercise routine is much more pleasant and non=boring. I am always on the prowl for gear that will work for my routine but will also do this to me in new and perhaps unexpected ways.

Yesterday’s experiment, the thong, the strap, the cup, and those snug Nike compression shorts worked extremely well. My penis was gently pressing against the walls of the cup through the entire workout, and the thong made its presence known in delightful ways with every stroke I made on the rowing machine and every turn of the cycle. I was mesmerized. The workout proceeded as if there was no time at all, even as the TV played in the background. My mind was not on the TV at all, but on what I was sensing and feeling with each stroke of the rower and turn of the cycle wheel. The combination of machine, exercise and just-the-right clothing mix was delightful in all sorts of different ways.

So, I’m fixated this morning on how much I want to go again, as in do it all over. Yesterday I accumulated a lot of pre cum in my thong and jock, and I decided to wash that out in my bathtub last night. I hung everything up and I hope it all will be dry before I am set to have at it again today. I know I have hit on something really neat if all I can think about is how much I want to do it all again.

A lot of guys complain they would love to get into a rigorous and consistent exercise program, but they are unable to keep it up (so to speak). Well, maybe part of the problem only lies in finding the right gear for exercise, gear that works for your specific mind and body. It is an interesting theory, for sure.

And so it goes….

To be continued..

sebbie 09-25-2017 08:30 PM

Every guy is the same: Every guy is different!
 
Every guy goes through natural cycles that occur in which sometimes he feels quite horny and sometimes not so much. Guys start to become aware of these natural cycles around puberty, but seem to get more noticeable in the late teens, around the age of Josh, Dylan, Bill and Joe. Every guy knows that sometimes he feels more horny, that is, more easily sexually aroused at some times rather than others. There are various explanations for this, one being the idea that testosterone levels do not remain steady, but are also cyclical with peaks and valleys. Guys often blame whatever is happening to them on the basis of male hormone levels at every moment in time.

But like lots of other things, blaming arousal levels on testosterone is an oversimplification of some very complicated things---things involving thoughts and ideas in addition to the body’s own chemistry. Most guys quickly learn that they cannot remain aroused or interested in sex if the mind is in any way distracted or working on a non sex-related problem. And, of course, there are all sorts of distractions that can easily derail sexual thoughts and feelings. For a guy to be able to enjoy his own body along with his own sexual thoughts and feelings requires a degree of focus on what is happening, or might soon happen sexually.

And here is the weird part: The ANTICIPATION of something that could happen with the ending being an orgasm might be nearly as enjoyable as the actual event, or the orgasm itself. That may seem like a strange thing to say, but it is true. Sexual arousal at its best takes time. A lot of guys somehow think that the faster they can get to the big payoff, the orgasm, the happier they are going to be, sexually, but quite the opposite is true. In this regard I am starting to sound like a sex therapist or marriage counselor, but that is fine.

What does all of this have to do with the story line involving “aids” like shiny royal blue Speedos® anyway, and employing such items to assist during sexual arousal. Now I am perhaps beginning to sound almost too “clinical” for my own good.

Let me bring this all back by getting you to think about the possibility of buying a royal blue Speedo, a basic swim brief with 3-inch sides. Perhaps you have never owned a swim brief before, but you have long admired the guys who seem to be able to wear a royal blue Speedo seemingly with confidence.

Sometimes in life, the anticipation of an event occurring ends up being more difficult to deal with than the event itself. For example, suppose you got into a situation where the only swimming gear that was available was a bright blue Speedo, but you didn’t know that was going to be the case until moments before you were going to enter the pool. In other words, you didn’t have a lengthy period of time to think about what you were going to do: you just got into the Speedo and hopped into the pool.

Now think about a situation where the swim coach says “all of the guys on the swim team will be expected to wear swim briefs. The correct gear has already been ordered and I will be passing this out for each of you to wear at practice a week from now.” Suddenly, this has become a very different and potentially much scarier situation for most guys. Each of the guys has a week to contemplate how the swim brief will fit and feel and how his body might “respond” on its own to the situation that will be occurring only a week away. Now, some of the guys may have worn swim briefs in the past, and may be less apprehensive about the whole situation. They know that, and so do you.

A complicating factor in all of this is that part of being a guy is all about maintaining control of a situation and being in charge of what is happening no matter what. But part of what makes the male sexual system so endlessly fascinating is the real possibility that a guy’s body could “respond” (as in a growing and hardening penis) even when the guy is attempting to make a conscious effort to tell is penis to quit doing that. Just more of this autonomic sexual response and the feeling of being out of control that scares guys so much. What am I going to do if I change into a swim brief and suddenly discover I have a big hard-on? What are my swim team buddies going to think if this happens? Am I gay? How can I cope with all of this? Of course, the more a guy thinks about this and agonizing over what could happen, chances are, the more likely it is for the event to occur. So contemplating and stewing over everything that might happen for an entire week is definitely not the best strategy.

Still, wearing a swim brief can generate a lot of horny fun sensations and feelings, and guys normally figure that out too, even at an early age. Having your penis in a slick=feeling and confined space such as what the swim brief provides can be a fun place for a guy to be, provided that you don’t get too horny or too aroused. Guys generally do not want to admit to that however. Still most guys would probably be at least a little curious to say the least.

All of this leads back to the love-hate relationship a lot of guys have with swim briefs. The possibility that a guy would uncontrollably blow while wearing a swim brief in a semi-public or public setting is a terrifying thought. But the thought of having your most sensitive male body part confined inside of a slick, snug fitting swim brief is in itself a very enjoyable thought. So which is it? For a lot of guys, the potential for sheer terror overrides the potential for something that is pure pleasure or fun. Truly, a complicated place to be in!

To be continued…

sebbie 10-10-2017 05:43 PM

Dylan knew this at a very early age
 
Dylan has known for a long time that he was “sensitive" to various kinds of snug-fitting clothing. It’s funny, because around puberty everything seems to be focused on the whole idea that a guy is likely going to start getting a real erection (and maybe an orgasm) in the presence of a girl. This is the way a guy like this is “supposed” to be. The whole idea of a guy possibly getting an erection and maybe having an orgasm too without being with a female partner is never discussed by anyone, but certainly not by Dylan’s parents or peer males in school. Everything seemed to be focused on the whole idea that the only reason there could be for a guy to get an erection is a female partner. And, of course the possibility that this could happen in the presence of another male was completely off the discussion lists.

So, Dylan has long been navigating uncertain waters entirely on his own. There was basically no one to talk about what had been happening to him with anyone, siblings, parents, or peers.

What exactly had been happening to Dylan and why did this end up being such a super secret topic, anyway. Well, like any “normal" post pubescent male Dylan had been getting erections, but sometimes for what appeared to be the strangest times and reasons. These were not situations where Dylan was with a girl. For that matter, these were not situations where Dylan was with another guy his age. Dylan had pretty well convinced himself that he wasn’t gay, but he was not certain that what was happening to him was exactly what was happening to other straight guys, you know, guys who made jokes about what had happened on a date with a girl.

Dylan thought of himself as being shy and nerdy, and certainly not the type to talk about what had happened to him and his body when he was in the presence of a girl. Some of the other guys semed to almost delight about providing too much information in that regard, and for Dylan this just dod not fit his personality at all.

Still, Dylan got erections pretty regularly, but in situations that his peer friends might quickly label as odd, or perhaps even gay. That was part of the problem, of course, that Dylan had no one to confide in.

What kind of situations? Well, I probably do not even need to explain this is detail, but just in case a few of my readers haven’t guessed about this part, there was this first time Dylan saw this picture of a guy wearing a snug-fitting swim brief, and the guy’s penis was clearly visible as an upward pointed bulge in the front of the swimsuit. The swimsuit was pretty much a standard sized brief, bright royal blue, a shiny polyester/Spandex blend. The brief was not even that skimpy, as skimpy swim briefs go. But, when Dylan saw that photo, it was like something big went off in both his mind and body. Dylan knew from that “brief” moment that this is the place he wanted for his own penis to be. Seeing the underside of a guy’s penis pressing against that slick-and-shiny material was almost too much for Dylan’s young brain to tolerate. That one photo provided an enormous amount of psychological pressure that permeated Dylan’s brain and body, and just thinking about that situation was the fodder for countless jerk-off sessions that extended all through Dylan’s high school days.

The great puzzle or Dylan was whether or not what had happened to him was “normal” for lots of guys his age. Dylan had no clue, and no one to ask that question to. It was too, well, embarrassing. Dylan kept thinking that because he got an erection just by looking at a guy wearing a blue swim brief, that might mean that he was gay, but simply was not willing to come to terms with that.

Now, a freshman in college, the old rules seemed to have loosened, if only a bit. Guys seemed a bit less apprehensive about fessing up to what they were doing by themselves. Particularly so with two guys packed into an undersized dorm room lacking its own plumbing. But still, this was complicated stuff. Dylan still has not quite figured out what the new rules are. Am I the only guy in the world who gets turned on by seeing another guy’s covered penis pointed up in a shiny blue swim brief, or is this commonplace? This question had haunted Dylan almost since puberty, and it was still troubling him. And with Josh, Bill and Joe, the answers to questions such as this seemed to get more not less complicated, although the other three seemed to be starting to become more open about their “fondness” for snug-fitting clothing of various sorts. If these items are an “aid” in self-pleasuring, what is wrong with that? No one is being harmed, for sure.

To be continued…

sebbie 10-14-2017 12:44 PM

Dylan has always known
 
Dylan has always “enjoyed” wearing snug-fitting clothing of various kinds. Early on, Dylan didn’t fully understand what exactly was going on in his mind or his body with respect to this, but it was certainly very real, and he quickly realized that this was not something that he was somehow going to “outgrow’ or completely go away once he got older and as he got more interested in girls. Dylan kept this all hidden from everyone, of course, his parents, sibling and, most certainly, his male peers.

Of course, there were still questions bouncing around in Dylan’s mind. Many questions. The biggest question, of course, was whether or not there were other guys his age who were facing the same “problem” as he was having. Is this commonplace among young guys his age or is it rare.

Dylan was not completely naïve on what his peer males were thinking and doing. He had learned that other guys his age certainly masturbate, and perhaps quite frequently. Still, any talk of this usually involves an imaginary female who is revealing herself to the guy as he strokes himself. The part that is missing is the notion that a guy might more successfully pleasure himself, fantasy female or not, when wearing a snug-fitting clothing item, an item like a shiny royal blue swimming brief with three-inch sides. That is the part that had always remained a real mystery to Dylan with respect to all of this.

The other complicating problem is that Dylan was not always equally enthusiastic about wearing snug-fitting clothing items like the aforementioned royal blue brief, but his interest in doing so tended to rise and fall in cycles, or at least had its high points and low points. Plus, in addition to swim briefs, Dylan was gradually discovering that there were other snug-fitting clothing items that were real turn-ons. More interestingly, just spotting one of these items and thinking about getting to wear it could send Dylan off into this other place. Dylan discovered that he might not be thinking about jerking off at all and then suddenly he would see something or even imagine something and his mind was almost instantly focused on jerking off. Strange stuff, huh? So strange in fact that Dylan could hardly believe that anyone else might have the same “problem.”

As they say in computer programming, one person’s programming “bug” might instead be a program “feature”. Maybe Dylan didn’t have a psychosexual “problem” or “issue” so much as he had a quite useful “feature” that most other guys had simply not “discovered” to be fun. After all, Dylan enjoyed himself immensely when he did these things. And, Dylan knew enough to know that what he was doing was not in any way “harming” himself, nor anyone else. Even without a sexual partner Dylan was having great fun with his “feature” and certainly faced none of the complicating problems other guys invariably have when they get involved in a sexual relationship with a partner. With masturbation in a royal blue swim brief no one gets an STD, Herpes, pregnant or anything else that can happen when bodily fluids are exchanged. And even though masturbation might not be the psychosexual equal of sex with a partner (but is that absolutely for certain?) it still is a great deal of fun. With essentially no down side, what can be wrong with that. Still, throughout Dylan’s high school years, these questions kept bouncing around in his head, over and over.

Then Dylan got to college, and had that strange encounter in the dorm with Bill and Joe many chapters ago in which he encountered Bill and Joe in the men’s bathroom wearing all the snug-fitting clothing items they had recently purchased at the big-box athletic store. It was like a light went off in Dylan’s head. Here were two guys who obviously enjoyed wearing snug-fitting clothing, just as Dylan did, and they had actually “pressed the envelope” in this specific regard farther than Dylan had dared to do.

One thing led to another. Bill and Joe never did quite verbalize to Dylan exactly WHAT they were doing with the various items, but Dylan had pretty much figured that out himself. The rest is history, as all of this led to the big Amazon order, the one with the swim briefs, thongs, jock straps with cups, wrestling singlets, compression gear etc. When Dylan was growing up, getting to wear any of these items was all a psychosexual “fantasy world,” but now Dylan could not only have it all, so to speak, but also get a chance to watch other guys do (struggle with doing) the exact same thing. What fun! This was a real eye opener for Dylan. Ahhh, to only be in Dylan’s shoes.

To be continued…

sebbie 11-05-2017 02:22 PM

Funny how this all works
 
Dylan certainly knew at a very early age that he was always aroused by the thought of wearing snug-fitting clothing. Of course, Dylan’s first thoughts in that regard related to snug-fitting swim briefs. Dylan has known that something was up in this regard at puberty if not sooner. Dylan at first was not at all certain about exactly what it was about a even seeing a swim brief that made him feel so strange, different at least, but some little “voice” inside of him kept “calling” him and saying to Dylan that he wanted to be in there. It was almost like there was something in his unique genes—Dylan didn’t know quite what—that kept dragging his mind in that direction.

Dylan has had a somewhat tough time figuring this all out. What happened to Dylan growing up gets at the very core of who he was becoming as a sexual human male with all of the complicated issues and feelings that goes along with that. Early on, Dylan was more than “bothered” by all of this. Dylan know that he would sometimes quickly get the same funny feeling every time he even looked at or even so much as saw a photo of a swim brief that was made for a guy. And Dylan knew that he was not much of a swimmer, let alone a competitive swim-team type of swimmer who would wear such an item for, say, a high school swim meet. What in the world was going on here anyway, and why did Dylan feel this way to the point where he was always in the back of his mind looking at swim briefs whenever he could?

Dylan was also bothered by the fact that he sometimes at least also liked to see other guys wearing swim brief, even in a photo, but in particular in real life. Dylan didn’t know what all to make of this interest either. Did that mean that Dylan was really more interested in guys than in girls? As Dylan grew older thins seemed to get more not less complicated. Did Dylan’s interest in observing guys wearing swim briefs mean that he was somehow interest in guys more so than girls, as in being at least a “little bit” gay not straight. Dylan always thought of himself as being a straight guy, but he was dealing with some complicated issues, feelings and sensations. Why could Dylan growing up never quite cope with the idea of wearing a swim brief? After all, growing up Dylan had worn cotton brief underwear, and doing that did not seem to have the same effect on his mind and body as the swim brief did. What in the world about the swim brief that suddenly made Dylan feel so “different” anyway?

Did other guys have the same “problem” that Dylan had? Dylan often wondered about this, but he had no one he dared talk to or ask such a blunt question. Dylan did know that some of his male peers seemed to also be having some “difficulties” in not wanting to wear certain items of clothing at the gym. The biggest issue seemed to be when the phys ed instructor wanted all the guys to wear straps, but Dylan suspected that the guys who went out for swimming were somehow having trouble confronting the entire idea of wearing a swim brief as well. Dylan just didn’t know exactly what was going on, but certainly something was going on with some of the other guys in this regard as well, or so Dylan at least thought.

And what were these crazy feelings Dylan was having at even the thought of being able to get and then try wearing a swim brief anyway? I guess Dylan was like a lot of other guys his age who tend to think that everything that goes on in the groin area tends to somehow stay in the groin area, and that somehow a guy’s mind is strangely powerful enough to overcome and cope with any sensations and feelings that emanate from the groin where the snug-fitting swim brief would be. But that is not the way it worked for Dylan, at least not entirely. Once Dylan started feeling any amount of tension in his groin, somehow his young mind all but immediately started to focus on the groin-area sensations as if there are heavy duty wires that link the mind and the groin. What was in charge here anyway, he brain or the sexual organs? Dylan could not figure this out, except to say that what happened even at the thought of being inside a swim brief tended to send things off into a special place that Dylan did not understand but knew that is where he wanted to be. And of course Dylan was stumped by what this all meant from the perspective of being straight, gay or someplace in the middle of it all, orientation-wise.

And those sensations and feelings Dylan was having were weird in themselves. Dylan knew that guys were supposed to get turned on by females and the thought of getting inside a female body in a special way, but what was happening to Dylan was nothing like that. Dylan would just see a swim brief on a rack in a sporting goods store and he could feel pre cum forming on the tip of his penis and dampening his underwear right there. And Dylan knew that whenever this happened he suddenly felt very good in his brain as well, even though he was not anywhere near the stage of having a hard-on and surely not at the point of having an orgasm. What could this all mean, anyway? That was the puzzle Dylan was trying to cope with. Is all of this somehow connected to being straight, gay or is this something else entirely, or is this a problem that is all but universal among the younger guys at least?

To be sure, a lot of swim brief manufacturers seem to almost “delight” in making this all tough on guys who are, quite frankly, struggling to cope with all of this. They tend to do this by making briefs that are small enough and snug-fitting enough to almost certainly quickly send a guy into this other world that is this curious mixture of sheer delight and total terror. How can a guy ever wear THAT swim brief without almost certainly getting a severe hard-on, not to mention an orgasm happening in a public setting like at a swimming pool? Dylan was wondering whether other guys were thinking the same thing or not, Maybe all of the other guys were so focused on having sex with a girl that this stuff caused them no difficulty at all. Maybe, or maybe not, or so Dylan was thinking to himself.

This story must continue…

sebbie 11-08-2017 01:14 PM

How snug is snug enough?
 
How snug is snug enough? That is an interesting question. This is actually the first installment of a two-part series, the second part being the question “How skimpy is skimpy enough?” the latter of which I will discuss in a separate chapter. But the question “how snug is snug enough?” provides an excellent starting point for more than one essay on the subject.

What does all of this have to do with the guys in the story, but especially Dylan, whose mind tends to be often focused on such a silly “concern”? Well, that too is an interesting question.

Let me start at the beginning, if I may. I know my readers would not be along with me at this point if each of them did not to at least a degree share some of the interests and feelings of the four guys in my story. Were you as a reader disinterested, you would not be looking up the latest story installment and you would have ignored all of this long ago. But, if you are still reading this after all these chapters, there must be “something” that you are able to “glean” from the discussion.

That is the way it is with Dylan, who has gradually become the focus of the story, too. Dylan’s thoughts and feelings must in some way mirror the thoughts and feelings of the guys who want to read about what Dylan thinks and feels. Dylan LOVES swim briefs. But the readers here are devoted to the same thing. That in itself is, well, more than a bit curious.

Maybe I shouldn’t be saying it all this bluntly, but a basic question might be what is it specifically that Dylan loves about swim briefs? I think all of you actually already know the answer to that. First Dylan loves how they look and feel on his 19-yeear old body. The look and feel is somehow special, something unique, fun or even playful. Dylan keeps wondering if other guys in the same situation wearing a little swim brief somehow manage to end up in the same place Dylan is in when he wears one. The answer to this question, though not yet certain, has been gradually becoming a little clearer.

Of course there is more, much more. Dylan knows that, and he now suspects that some other guys might know that too. Dylan loves to jerk off while wearing a swim brief. Not sure exactly what it is that gets him horny, aroused and hard. Could it be the look, the feel, or something else even more difficult to ascertain. Dylan is not certain, but whatever that something is, it is certainly there, big time. Dylan suspects that other guys might be similarly “affected” but that is part of the as yet unresolved mystery. Certainly guys are usually loath to “admit” to this under all but extraordinary circumstances. So this becomes a very private “secret” that is not easy to share with anyone.

There are swim briefs and there are swim briefs. Any guy who shares Dylan’s interests certainly knows that. Some swim briefs have wider sides than others. An old=school “standard” swim brief has 3-inch sides and provides quite a bit of coverage to the buttocks. Some guys might think this is the least sexy swim brief out there, as in the brief least likely to lead to arousal and “inadvertent” ejaculation, but there is more to the story than that.

It is pretty common nowadays to find swim briefs with narrower sides, 2-inch, 1-inch and narrower and briefs that provide less coverage to the buttocks than a so-called standard swim brief, usually on line not in a physical store. I want to delay any discussion about whether these briefs tend to get sexier and more likely to lead to arousal and ejaculation until a later chapter.

For now, I want to return to simply a standard old school swim brief like you might still find hanging on a men’s swimsuit rack at a bricks-and-mortar sporting goods store, not something briefer sold by an on-line vendor.

A simple brief from a major manufacturer with 3-inch sides can be quite sexy (as in erotic leading to arousal) but especially so for a guy who has never worn one before. This is the heart of all that relating to guys being scared to wear ANY swim brief in public. How does a guy control his “urges” that he knows he will have just getting his body inside a standard swim brief? This terrifies a lot of guys. It is also a source of pure delight in a good not a bad way, but somehow it is often difficult to separate the terror from the sheer pleasure.

So, guys wearing standard swim briefs in a public situation, say at a swimming pool, somehow learn to get their urges under control, and at some point end up in a situation mentally and physically where they no longer worry that the urge to ejaculate will overwhelm in a public or even a semi-public (guy’s locker room) situation.

Still, at this point a guy may still be thinking that that slick feeling swim brief would be way more fun to masturbate in than by traditional ways. Not long after, the so called “urge to downsize” sets in.

For now, at least, downsizing does not mean finding a brief in a different skimpier style from a different manufacturer. Downsizing merely means buying a brief a couple inches smaller in the waist than the current one. Let’s say a guy’s first swim brief has a 32-inch waist. Downsizing might mean buying one with a waist size 2 inches smaller, or 30 inches. Even more daring might be a 28-inch waist for a guy who thinks of himself as a 32.

Lycra-blend fabrics are wonderful in that they are able to stretch a lot. That means that a guy who ordinarily would war garments with a 32-inch waist can pretty easily get into something smaller, perhaps much smaller. A smaller waist size means the entire brief is cut smaller overall. But it will stretch. A 32-inch brief has a certain amount of space to accommodate a guy’s male organs. As the waist size decreases, this space will become, well, snugger. Not that the fabric wont stretch, it will, but as the waist size gets smaller the fabric will need to fit snugger over a guy’s sensitive body parts. Some guys might be in agony over this, but the snug fit in the groin is actually part of the fun.

And the sides of the brief, being stretched horizontally, will look as if they have become narrower (OK, and they also are in part because a 3-inch side probably for a nominal 32-inch waist, and a 28 inch brief will be below 3 inches. Plus the brief with the smaller waist is going to provide a snugger fit on the buttocks.

So, all of this downsizing can be fun in a very “special way” for guys who are so inclined. The fun part comes if coach REQUIRES the swim team to downsize for a big meet on the grounds that a smaller suit means a faster time. This could cause some significant “apprehension” for some team members. Too, the outline of a guy’s gonads is going to be more obvious in the downsized brief, which provides less “room to grow.” All of this can be a bit disconcerting, but especially so if the guy is not that confident about his abilities at ejaculatory control.

So, let’s assume that Dylan nominally has a 32-inch waist. That would mean that normally he would probably want to choose a swim brief with a 30-inch waist. But a first level of downsizing for Dylan would be a 28-inch brief. Depending on his “curiosity” about all of this, he might try a 26-inch brief of the same style, and if he is really adventuresome, he probably could squeeze himself into a 24-inch brief.

What happens after all the tugging and squeezing is completely up to Dylan. Tucked in like that both Dylan’s brain and body will quickly be working overtime, I can assure Dylan that he is going to enjoy himself immensely just getting himself into this special place.

To be continued…

sebbie 11-10-2017 02:10 PM

Will I somehow be able to cope?
 
As a young man begins a journey into adulthood, there are all sorts of unanswered questions about sex and sexuality that need attention. First off, erections seem to be occurring relentlessly, and oftentimes for no apparent overtly-sexual reason. The movies seem to indicate that guys normally only get aroused and erect when making out with a partner of the opposite sex. But any guy knows even early on that this is only a part of the story of how sexual sensations and feelings work in reality.

Nearly every guy has life experiences growing up in which he (ahem) ejaculated in a place and time that was less than appropriate. The exact situation and circumstances surrounding these episodes get written on the brain using indelible (non-removable) ink, and sometimes even end up coming back and haunting a guy throughout the rest of his life. A guy thinks these deeply personal ejaculatory events (doesn’t that sound “scientific?) will gradually be forgotten and discarded over time, but it is not as if that easily or readily happens.

If the circumstances surrounding an ejaculatory event like this involve in some way a snug-fitting item of clothing, that item being a swim brief, jock strap or something else that did it (each reader can fill in the item here for himself) this makes the whole situation even more worrisome. What happens the next time? Will I somehow get “used” to wearing the item so that something embarrassing no longer happens when I put the item on? This all seems rather uncertain, and that alone can be scary because the guy is never certain as to what the outcome might be in a specific situation.

Guys are torn between two places, the sheer terror of having an ejaculatory event occurring in an inappropriate place and time, and the sheer fun of the ejaculatory event that courses throughout the guy’s entire body, even when this is happening in the absence of a sexual partner. Quite a dilemma to resolve!

So, what is a guy faced with this dilemma to do? Why experiment in private, of course! Dylan, as a 19-year old college freshman is in the last of his teen years, but would be considered a young adult age wise. Like many if not most college freshman, he entered college without a lot of connections with the opposite sex, and the connections he did have were more casual than sexual. Every guy worries a lot about his first real sexual encounter with another person. This is not really different for a guy who believes he is gay than it is for a guy who believes he is straight. Every guy probably worries that once he gets himself into a sexual situation with a partner, the whole issue of how do I control my urges such that I don’t get so excited that I just ejaculate in my underwear at the very beginning of the encounter, effectively shutting down whatever could have happened had I somehow managed to get my brain to control my urges better. This is all a rocky road for guys to say the least because guys soon learn that this is the one part of their body whereby conscious thought is not always driving the process forward. Slowing things down indeed might be quite difficult to do. This requires concentration and practice. And probably it is a good idea to do some practicing initially without the added complication of dealing with a real partner, gay or straight.

So what to do? Practice of course! What does this practice and experimentation have to do with snug-fitting swim briefs? Why everything. Dylan is about to order himself some swim briefs for the explicit purpose of using them as an aid to developing ejaculatory control. Won’t that be fun! Well, yes, it could certainly turn out to be that way.

But isn’t this just a silly thing to do? Not really! Every guy has basic sexual urges, urges that gradually intensify as the guy gets more and more aroused, urges that seem to be less under conscious control the farther along the guy is on the “path to ejaculation.” The trick is to learn how to control these urges such that ejaculation is delayed as long as possible, even as the urge to ejaculate keeps getting more and more intense . This is one way for Dylan to learn how to cope in an overtly sexual situation with a partner, where the urge to ejaculate is likely to get quite strong quite quickly, maybe too strong and too quick.

In the previous chapter I made the point that guys can oftentimes fit into swim briefs that are considerably smaller than their nominal waist sizes. A guy built like Dylan has a nominal 32-inch waist. A vendor such a Swimoutlet normally has “grab bag” swim briefs available in a host of different sizes and at half price or less, maybe $10 each. Each grab bag brief will be from a specific brand, usually a Tyl grab bag or a Speedo grab bag. Anyhow, the buyer specifies the waist size or sizes, and the vendor picks out the particular color and style from their “left over” suits.

So, in Dylan’s case, he orders briefs in a series of sizes, 32, 30 28, 26, and if I am really daring, 24-inch waists. The vendor picks the color and style for each brief, but they will be all be briefs in the waist sizes as specified, from largest to smallest.

So when the order arrives, Dylan will have five swim briefs all in different sizes. Dylan can’t wait to try them on. The briefs each get laid out in order from the biggest to the smallest waist.

Now, as any guy know, just trying on any brand new brief, even one with a guy’s correct nominal waist size (32 inches in this case) can be an arousing experience to be sure. What Dylan is going to want to do is try on the 32 inch brief first, and see exactly how that goes. Study himself and how his body looks in the mirror, front and back. Maybe rub himself a little using his fingers to the front of the brief, just for fun.

I’m presuming that Dylan is already feeling pretty good inside all over. Swim briefs tend to do that to guys, even swim briefs in the “correct” waist size.

At this point Dylan will remove the 32-inch brief. Dylan takes note that his male organ is already somewhat bigger than it was only minutes ago. This means that Dylan is going to have to struggle a bit more to get himself contained within the brief the next size down, the one with the 30-inch waist. This turns out to be true, of course, but Dylan makes it into a brief that is a little snugger and tighter than the first one. Not only id Dylan growing in a special place, concomitantly his urge to ejaculate is growing as well. After Dylan has carefully examined himself in the mirror wearing the 30-inch brief, he removes this brief and then makes an attempt to get inside the next smaller, 28-inch size and then repeat the entire process once more, with the urge to ejaculate becoming even more intense as Dylan examines himself in the mirror.

This procedure continues until Dylan reaches a point, swim brief-wise where Dylan in no longer able to keep his urge to ejaculate in check. At that point he creams whatever suit he happens to be wearing with a most powerful outburst of cum.

The first time Dylan tries this, he may discover the very real possibility that he cannot make it past the first couple of suits (or even the first new suit) without ejaculating. Nothing lost, really. Dylan can come back the next day and retry the process from the start all over again with the objective of being able to make it to a suit at least one size snugger with each (daily) attempt.

Leaning ejaculatory control like this may at times seem quite difficult, but the entire process can be quite enjoyable and part of becoming a sexual adult. A question guys might have is whether or not a partner could be brought into the process at some point. In the case of a female partner who would be mainly there to just watch as the events proceed, it would probably take a rather open-minded female to even begin to understand what a guy is going though doing this. Then the question always becomes what does this have to do with the idea of having “real” intercourse with a female, and that becomes a tough question to answer for a lot of guys

The partner thing might be quite different for two gay guys however. Imagine two gay guys in the same room each working through their own set of swim briefs of the various sizes one by one, with each guy not only experiencing his own sensations, but observing how the other guy is coping as he is faced with the constraints imposed by each new smaller, tighter swim brief.

Could be fun huh?

To be continued…

sebbie 11-13-2017 05:49 PM

Dylan's Dilemma
 
Dylan has been thinking a lot about exactly how his mind and body copes with situations whereby he keeps trying on swimming briefs that keep getting smaller and snugger. He finds that the mere THOUGHT of playing this game with his own mind and body gets him aroused at least to the point where he starts to pre cum every time he thinks of how this all might go down with several different-sized swim briefs. You know, one sized 32 inches, a 30-incher, a 28-incher, a 26-incher, and, if he feels particularly “adventuresome” (You probably already know that interesting erotic feeling in the groin area that comes when a guy even thinks about trying to do this), a suit with only a 24-inch waist. Dylan knows that he might not even be able to get himself into a 24-inch suit, let alone find a comfortable position to place his penis and balls once he does get himself in there, assuming he meets with a degree of “success” in coping with the situation at hand. Dylan has been tossing around all of this in his mind.

But, there is another major issue that Dylan has been thinking about, at least to a degree as he contemplates the possibility of doing this. All of this is safe to do and just might be very enjoyable as well. After all, guys Dylan’s age find ways and places to masturbate regularly, and somehow they manage to accomplish this without drawing undue attention to themselves in the process. I guess each guy who masturbates identifies a different way of accomplishing this. The old rule still applies in that the only time and place a guy is ever supposed to get an erection is with a similarly-aged female partner who is quite OK with having “real” sex and that anything else a guy does in the sexual arousal department is, at minimum, gay or at least sexually abnormal in some way. And the last thing any guy wants is even a semi-public reputation for doing stuff sexually that does not fall within a clearly-defined range of socially-acceptable sexual behaviors.

WOW, this is messy stuff for a host of different reasons. Partner sex in which the participants engage in an exchange of bodily fluids (I love that terminology) involving either a hetero or homosexual partner involves a whole assortment of risks, pregnancy, assorted sexually transmitted diseases, by the way), the possibility that the partner will suddenly in the middle of everything decide that whatever is happening is non-consensual (this situation can happen is straight or gay relationships) and others. This is a heavy list and a particularly heavy responsibility for a 19-year old college freshman like Dylan.

But what Dylan is interested in doing using the different-sized swim briefs involves none of these issues and risks. If he wants, Dylan can try all of this in private, with the only concern being what happens if Josh, his roommate happens to come back to the dorm right in the middle of when Dylan is running his experiments. Now Josh is a good guy, and he is not likely to “spill the beans” on what Dylan was doing when Josh “crashed” the dorm room during the experiment. Still, with all the news-media attention related to people complaining about sex-related stuff that happened to then that was non-consensual even decades earlier this is something of a potential problem should Josh walk in on Dylan who is playing with himself aggressively inside a new swim brief.

Still, Dylan knows that Josh has already seen Dylan masturbating a few times before. For that matter, Dylan has seen Josh doing the same thing to himself. So, at least to a degree the “ice” has already been broken in this regard.

The other possibility is that once Josh fully understands what Dylan is doing to his mind and body that Josh will want to try and be enthusiastic about doing the same thing himself. This means, basically, that Josh needs his own set of swim briefs of various sizes, much as Dylan has planned.

But if this were true and Josh could be interested, how does Dylan even go about to start engaging Josh in this kind of a discussion? This is complicated by the real possibility that Dylan thinks he would find the entire experiment to be more exciting, sexually, if he were not doing it alone and in private, but with Josh watching Dylan’s every move.

Where is this all leading, anyway? If you were in Dylan’s shoes (swim brief), what would YOU do?

Those are good questions.

To be continued…

sebbie 11-15-2017 05:54 PM

Dylan and Josh have a conversation
 
Jerking off is really fun. Growing up, guys learn that quite quickly, but the mystery for any guy growing up is the question of whether or not the he is “unique” in this regard. Maybe I am the one who has discovered this and my male friends are not aware of what I have found. This in itself poses something of a dilemma. Dare I mention any of this to my male friends with respect to what I have been and am doing to myself, or should I just keep quiet and try to do this in private insofar as possible ?

A related difficulty nearly every young guys face is finding enough privacy to deal with their urges without drawing any attention. Worse, when guys are young, their desire to ejaculate hounds them nearly non-stop, and if they don’t get off every day or two. Initially, guys try to cope with their jerk-off urges by putting themselves on a schedule that means they only get to pleasure themselves every three or four days instead of every day or two. But this only seems to make matters worse, as the longer ejaculation is delayed, the more their attention ends up getting focused on the need to jerk off. Worse, such efforts at controlling ejaculation frequency like this often has the unintended consequences such as the wet dream, commonplace at that age, and this can have messy consequences possible worse that if the guy simply got off on a more frequent schedule at a more convenient place and time.

Of course, but the time guys get to Josh and Dylan’s age, they are supposed to have already learned the basics of ejaculatory control and are no longer fascinated with jerking off. Yah sure! While Josh and Dylan are past their high school days, this does not mean that they have somehow lost their fondness for jerking off. The only tricky part under the circumstance is that college men are often packed two-to-a room, with almost no privacy at all 24/7. This could be a worse situation for a surreptitious jerking off session than when the guy was living at home and in high school.

One option is for each roommate to make an attempt to hide from the other this most-personal aspect of male sexuality. But it is almost is college dorm rooms are purposely set up to make a charade in this regard as difficult as possible. Of course, there is another option, and that option is for the roommates to openly admit to each other what is up, but as you might imagine, this too is difficult to even approach as a subject. Dylan and Josh have been trying to engage in indirect “communication” in that regard. Remember, Dylan did not stop masturbating and Dylan stuck around to observe what Dylan was doing to himself in detail. Josh didn’t quickly say “excuse me” and exit the room again. I suppose that one could debate whether this was the behavior of two perfectly straight guys or two guys that at minimum had some same-sex interest or not, but neither Dylan nor Josh seemed agitated over the entire episode.

So now Dylan has this scheme in mind where he orders several swim briefs from a Swimoutlet grab bag, in various waist sizes, ranging from 32 inches down to 24 inches. There is no question what Dylan wants to do with the swim briefs. He wants to use them to get horny aka use them as a jerk-off aid in a special way, trying on each brief from biggest to smallest. Dylan will probably already be horning at the very start of the process, but as he tries on the ever-smaller briefs in order, chances are he is going to keep getting more and more turned on as the briefs get snugger and tighter around his penis until Dylan can stand it no more and ejaculates. For the first try doing this, Dylan may not be able to make it through the entire set of swim briefs. Trying on ANY new swim brief generally is an erotic experience at some level for most guys probably, and Dylan might not make it through all the briefs without shooting in one of the larger size. That is to be tested.

Dylan realizes that he cannot run his jerk-off experiments with the briefs without at least giving Josh a bit of a heads-up on it all. After all, Josh has already seen Dylan jerking off, so at least that initial “ice” has been broken. Believe it or not, Dylan starts with the discussion with Josh this way.

Dylan: I’m thinking of ordering some Grab bag swim briefs from Swimoutlet. They are quite a bit cheaper that way, about $12 each instead of $25 The tradeoff is that I can order the brief in my size but they get to pick the exact style and color

Josh: That’s interesting. What size were you thinking of ordering?

Dylan: I’m not sure. They are so cheap I thought I might order several different sizes. Then I can try each one on and see how they look in that size.

Josh is beginning to think that there is more to Dylan’s idea of ordering briefs in several different sizes than the mundane aspect of simply finding out which size fits the best. But Josh is not as yet at the point of having the courage to articulate exactly what he thinks Dylan might be up to and have going on in his mind. Still, Josh is starting to sense this, and those thoughts soon lead to Josh thinking that he might “enjoy” trying the same thing.

Josh: I might like a pair or two of those briefs myself.

Dylan and Josh could just make one order of 5 briefs 24-32 inches, and “share” them. Sharing swim briefs tends to quickly get to be quite personal, and perhaps something mostly that gay guys would do. Neither Josh nor Dylan are quite at that point, at least not yet.

So, Josh and Dylan end up making one larger order with 8 grab bag briefs, for Josh five sizes in two-inch increments from 32 inches down to 24 inches. Josh gets three briefs, a 30, a 28 and a 24 incher.

Typically with grab-bag briefs, if you order two of the same size, they will show up in different colors, styles or both. A 28-incher in one design might be easier or tougher to get into and out of. But that is part of the fun.

Now the stage is set for both Dylan and Josh to try on their new briefs with both in the same dorm room as the other. What else, if anything happens, will have to wait until after the big order arrives from Swimoutlet.

To be continued…

sebbie 11-17-2017 01:08 PM

Guys have a near universal fondness…
 
Guys have a near universal fondness for jerking off, but this is especially true for college-aged guys like Dylan and Josh. Freshman college dormitories for men often stuff males two-to-a-room into tiny rooms, with virtually no privacy at all. Something has to give, and it usually it does. Male roommates need to find a path that allows them to do what they need to do with respect to studying and keeping up with their courses, but the situation cannot be so difficult that they have no way at all to deal with their “primal urges”, either. Somehow or another, guys need to identify a path that allows them to be who they are, and, of course who you are involves discovering a workable strategy for dealing with your urges and desires to jerk off even in the absence of the requisite “socially-acceptable” female partner.

All of these thoughts are coming to me against the background with respect to revelations relating to celebrities and other public figures in the news media as this is being written. What we all have learned in recent days is that male masturbation in front of a female must be a favorite fantasy among many males who consider themselves to be straight, “normal’ heterosexual males, given that women are complaining over and over that this happened to them and it is a very severe form of sexual harassment. But maybe the guys who actually carry out such fantasies are not as normal as they like to believe they are. Maybe MOST guys engage in boorish behavior when they are around women. Maybe something quite analogous often happens when gay guys are with other gay guys. Who knows? This is all uncharted territory that has only recently had a bright light shown on it.

So, what does this all have to do with Dylan and Josh, our 19-year old male roommates stuffed in a little dorm room, who have made a big order of swim briefs of various sizes? Dylan and Josh think of themselves as perfectly straight, and certainly not as gay partners in any way, shape or form. They both have normal male urges and fantasies, except of course that somehow they both have drifted into territory that could soon be quite complicated. We know that Dylan loves snug-fitting clothing of various types. Bluntly put, Dylan is fond of such clothing because it’s so much fun to jerk off in, and the swim briefs are at the very top of his list of items that he thinks about in this way.

Josh understands more or less what Dylan is doing to himself and at some level comprehends what Dylan finds so erotic and pleasant about the whole idea to the point of pursuing it. Dylan has somehow “caught” Josh in the same jerk-off “web” that Dylan has been in. Further, given all the constraints on male college freshmen in terms of finding a workable place to enjoy ones’ self, maybe this idea isn’t such a bad idea even though it might seem just a bit “odd” at first. Still, as goofy jerk-off schemes go, this has got to be far “tamer” and with fewer problems and issues than, say, masturbating in front of a female co-worker, as some males in the news are prone to do.


Besides, as I have said many times before, no one ever got pregnant, sued for sexual harassment or got a terrible STD by merely trying on a somewhat too snug-fitting swim brief in the privacy of a men’s college dorm room. So, as fun sexual activities go, this one also has the advantage of being perfectly safe to do in a host of different ways.

Still, things are not totally uncomplicated. Look at what has been happening. Guys, both straight and gay, are getting called out in the news for engaging in behavior deemed as sexual harassment, things that might have happened as long as several decades earlier.

Now, if Josh and Dylan each try on (and proceed to jerk off in) their suits in complete privacy, there is no chance whatsoever that 30 years from now one of the two will relate what happened and claim that the other was sexually messed up to the news media. Either Josh or Dylan could become famous public figures, or both of them could. These stories decades old now seem to be following public figures, and details a swim brief jerk-off session would likely create quite a discussion.

The complicating factor is that jerking off in swim briefs is likely more fun if two guys are both doing it at the same time and not in complete privacy. Complicating all of this is the possibility that if Dylan and Josh do this at the same time, this could be seen as at least a gay sexual act if not “real” gay sex. But Dylan and Josh still think of themselves as quite straight. Perfectly straight? I will get back to you on that descriptor.

There is no shortage of gay porn on the Internet in which two young guys start off wearing skimpy swim briefs, and begin the video by each rubbing their bulges through the brief. At the videos progress, the guys gradually seem to get up the nerve to each start massaging the other guy through his swim brief. A lot of this video is sweet and “touching” in more ways than one. Eventually, penises pop out of the tops of the suits, and things progress to something oral or anal. The odd part is that the latter parts of these videos are typically much less fun to watch than the early, self-pleasuring and then “touching” moments.

The tricky part for Dylan and Josh at this point is how exactly they want to proceed. All of this could be done without the other one present at all. Or not. The idea of Dylan and Josh both getting to see how the other one copes in this most interesting swim-brief situation is a fascinating one, but what are the implications, and exactly what do Dylan and Josh do to themselves and each other as the scheme progresses?

To be continued….

sebbie 11-22-2017 01:53 PM

Budget Woes of College Freshmen
 
Dylan and Josh have been plowing through on-line Web sites that sell swimming briefs in search of a place that would sell then swim briefs of various sizes in order to obtain what they need to test their fantasies at a reasonable cost. The whole idea was to order a total of 8 swim briefs 5 for Dylan and 3 for Josh in various sizes, from 24 inch to 30 or 32 inch waist size. The problem with the grab bag briefs is that even in a grab bag situation the vendors all seem to want $15 USD for each brief. Now 8 x $15 works out to be $120, not a small number, and particularly not a small number for two college freshmen, even if they divide the cost. If they go that way, is this crazy idea going to be “worth it?”

I guess part of the answer to that question is whether ir not the erotic fun is as wild and crazy fun as the two of them think that it might be, just trying on the briefs of the various sizes, getting hard doing that, and finally shooting in powerful bursts of semen. What is a mind-blowing experience like that worth, in dollar terms, anyway? Is $120 to get there cheap or kinda pricey?

Goodness, guys everywhere have been pricing mind-blowing sexual experiences since the dawn of time. Think about this puzzle in the context of a date with a particular female who the guy likes a lot but has not yet had sex. If I take her to a fancy restaurant and end up picking up a $100 tab will this lead to the first time for real sex with her, and, deep down the guy is also thinking, will this be the mind-blowing sexual event I have so far at least only dreamed about. Will the pricier restaurant tab lead to a higher probability of getting sexually to the place I am REALLY after? Good questions, huh, and don’t tell me that almost every guy faced with a situation with a female as described hasn’t pondered these thoughts in the back of his head. What is the true path to a mind-blowing male orgasm, and does that path involve first spending more money than my limited budget? Worse, even if I spend the money, what if this still leads nowhere purely from a sexual orgasm perspective? This is quite a dilemma to be in to be sure.

I was just reading about a lady whose fiancé went out and bought an engagement ring on his own, and she hated the ring, though she had yet to tell her future husband. From her perspective, it was the wrong color (yellow not white gold) a “clumsy” setting, but she was most upset that he only spent $2,100 on the ring, when she thought he was “good” for one much bigger and far more expensive. Besides, her fantasy was to go to the jewelry store and choose the ring together, not for him to just “drop” one of his choosing on her.

Of course, we didn’t hear from the guy. He likely picked one that would not cost him so much as to cause budget issues for the new couple, and he thought she would be delighted with the ring of his choosing because she loved him. He thought wrong. Way wrong.

Most of the people who responded to her complaint said that if she wasn’t delighted with the ring he chose, he is probably not the right guy for her, and that the entire idea of getting married should be off the table. Good advice! There would be other financial conflicts over other items from day one in the marriage and at some point divorce would be inevitable.

So, how jewelry stores stay in business is that guys figure if they spend big bucks on a ring the payoff will be more frequent and more nearly mind-blowing sex. Not that the guys ever admit to this, but that is really what is in their minds as they wander into the jewelry store. And the stores are there really to accommodate these fantasies (which, sadly, often do not turn out to be).

I’ll bet you are all wondering what this all has to do with to college-age guys buying grab bag Speedos® on line? Well, it’s the same deal, pretty much. Actually it is a less complicated deal. Both Dylan and Josh are surfing the net looking for swim briefs that will purposely give them each a big hard-on. Same deal as the jewelry store purchases. OK, it’s a little different but in both instances a guy is seeking out an orgasm the likes of which he has never experienced before.

Now some guys might think what Dylan and Josh are doing is maybe a little weird compared with what the guy nearing the state of marriage is doing, with or without his future wife in tow. But we can be honest here. Guys universally love to ejaculate, and the more powerful the better. What Dylan and Josh are contemplating doing is merely an alternate path to getting there. And a path that, at the end of the day, has fewer downside risks of various sorts that doing this with a partner.

Exactly what Dylan and Josh are contemplating could be simply a solo event done in complete privacy. Alternately, the two of them could “share” the experience. But if that happens could this ultimately lead to complaints by one or the other of sexual harassment, even if nothing touches and no bodily fluids are exchanged? Complicated times we live in now. Guys do not want sexual experiences with a partner of either sex to reemerge 30 years later in a complaint by the partner that they were somehow not engaging in consensual activities. Where exactly in the scheme of things does watching another guy struggle to get his male body parts to fit into an undersized swim brief, anyway?

And what are Dylan and Josh going to order. The Speedo® grab bag briefs run $15 each with uncertain style and color. Many Sporti® briefs are available in all the sizes ranging from 22 to 32 inches (or even larger) and run $9 each. But Dylan and Josh would know exactly the style and color of these briefs up front. And 8 briefs could be had for 8 x $9 = $72, substantially less for students on a limited budget.

Or, they could order some of each. Budgetary woes often play a role in exactly what sexual fantasies are achievable. This is something guys deal with on a regular basis.

So, what will happen with the order, anyway? And will Dylan and Josh choose to share the entire experience, or will each attempt to go it alone in private? And will this end up being as much risk-free fun as Dylan thinks it might?

Maybe these issues will be resolved in the next chapter.

To be continued…

sebbie 11-24-2017 01:54 PM

Dylan and Josh make a plan AND place an order
 
Dylan and Josh together have been contemplating their dilemma of wanting to try something that could prove to be interesting, but to do it on the budget a workable budget for two college freshman. What do we know at this point about the situation? First, guys nearly universally love situations in which they can get horny and “finish off” everything with a powerful ejaculation, but particularly so for 19-year old college freshmen with only limited experience in dealing with sex with a partner. Dylan and Josh are both of the mindset that there must be a method that works without getting into the complexities of finding another person and working out all of the complicated stuff that might ultimately lead to partner sex, and then coping with all the unexpected consequences of where sex with a partner inevitably leads.

Both Dylan and Josh love to ejaculate and they both have been masturbating by themselves almost from the moment of puberty (or perhaps even a little before). The problem is that they have pretty well exhausted trying all of the old techniques and methods that may have served them well when they were younger. Still, there seems to be things yet to be learned about having fun by and with yourself, and Dylan appears to have “discovered” some ideas on this subject that Josh was not aware of. Now Josh is being dragged along by what he is learning about all of this from his roommate Dylan, who seems to have honed his skills for enjoying himself by himself to a greater degree than Josh had ever thought of doing to and with himself.

This may all seem a little goofy, but is it? No, not really! After all if a male college student doesn’t have a readily available sexual partner, and the male hormones are very active, and something has to give. In that respect, what Dylan has gotten josh to think about doing is pretty tame stuff.

I don’t think any of my readers have lost track of what Dylan and Josh are thinking about doing—buying swim briefs in various waist sizes and then just “trying them on” going from largest to smallest. This gets at the entire topic of why a lot of guys are apprehensive about wearing swim briefs. Bluntly put, for a lot of guys, maybe most, just trying on a swim brief with a proper-sized waist may lead to a situation whereby a guy gets horny, grows, and then has “grave difficulty” fitting body parts into the brief. If the guy is doing this with some of his male peers present, say in a locker room, the apprehension level only increases. If the brief is undersized, the pressures and urge to get off only gets worse.

The idea Dylan and Josh are pursuing is not to simply find and order the skimpiest brief in their measured waist sizes, about 30 inches, but to find briefs that provide moderate coverage, 3-inch sides and then order briefs that downsize, downsize some more, and then really downsize. Then they will keep trying them on from largest to smallest. With each smaller brief, just getting it on will, of course, get more and more difficult, even as the erection and urge to ejaculate likely keeps getting stronger and stronger. At some point, unless Dylan and Josh are brain-dead, the urge to ejaculate will overwhelm in powerful bursts of semen. At what waist size this happens for each is an “empirical issue” to be determined experimentally.

So, Dylan and Josh want to get their stuff together but on a College freshman budget. Dylan and Josh have been looking at the Swimoutlet site and have discovered that the Speedo or Tyr grab bag briefs are too expensive for their budget, at $15. Dylan is thinking that he has at most $60 to spend on such “foolishness” for swim briefs in 5 different waist sizes. Josh is thinking more like $35 total to be spent on 3 briefs. So that works out to an average cost of about $12 per brief or less.

Part of the fun with the grab bag briefs is in the not knowing what exactly you are going to get other than the waist size until the briefs arrive. If the guys are ordering specific briefs in specific sizes, part of the “uncertainty” fun is lost.

Now Swimoutlet has lots of briefs from brands like iSwim and Sporti, some of them as cheap as $5.99, but most in the $8-$11 price range and in waist sizes in two-inch increments from 22 inches to 32 inches, the catch being both guys would know exactly what is in the order. So here is what the two guys have agreed to do for fun. Dylan is giving Josh a budget of $60 to find five suits on line in various sizes that Josh believes will get Dylan horny trying on in a downsizing mode. Dylan is going to be doing the same thing for (or to) Josh, but only 3 suits costing no more than $35 total. Then they are going to combine these picks into a single large order, with neither guy knowing what the other guy selected for him until the day the order arrives!

Crazy fun, huh? You, the reader will not know what exactly was in the order either until the suits all arrive, except to say for now that Josh is probably going to be most interested in seeing whether his choices “worked” in that “very special way” for Dylan. Dylan the same for Josh. Remember, part of the fun is that Josh is newer to all of this than Dylan is, and because of this, Josh might not have the degree of ejaculatory control that Dylan currently has developed. Still, every guy likely has his so-called personal “breaking point” in this regard, and there probably be a point whereby the struggle for Dylan becomes so intense that he can “stand it no longer” either. The successive downsizing (Can I really get my body into THAT?) is really what keeps making this all more and more difficult and unpredictable.

To be continued….

sebbie 11-25-2017 12:46 PM

Time Out!
 
Every male past puberty (and perhaps even some who are not quite there yet) longs to ejaculate. This longing is buried deep in human genetics somewhere and comes from somewhere that we all do not fully understand, but universally seek as males.

Of course, it doesn’t take long for males to discover that a powerful orgasm is only part of the fun. Like going on an extended vacation, the travel in getting to the destination can be as much fun as being at the final destination. The orgasm is there and over in moments: but getting to that point might have taken a long time. Perhaps too long, some men seem to think.

Just getting to that point could even be more than half the fun. Way more! Of course, the path to an orgasm for many males is frequently riddled with potholes and boulders. This is particularly true if a partner is somehow involved. And maybe even more so if the partner involved is a female.

Surely that is a strange thing for me to say. I had better have some strong reasoning behind what I am saying. Isn’t heterosexual sex the cornerstone of a long-lasting and loving relationship? Aren’t guys who are not involved in a long term and loving relationship with a woman somehow “missing out” on the best that life has to offer—to be blunt, a powerful orgasm happening inside a snug-fitting vagina?

Well perhaps, if that is where your mind and body is as a guy. But the number of divorcing couples who thought they were entering this kind of nirvana when they got married suggests to me that this world may not be as perfect as guys sometimes are led to believe. For those who have discovered otherwise, that is great. But for the rest of you, maybe things are not nearly as simple as they appear and married life with routine penis-vagina sex isn’t quite all it is made out to be.

Plus, right now at least the news is filled with revelations about horny guys seeking an orgasm who ended up in a situation where they committed an act of sexual harassment, often nowadays a code word for a guy masturbating with a female present. In thinking about this, there are two possible reasons why a female would be upset over this. The first and most obvious reason is that this was happening in a time place or set of circumstances that were obviously inappropriate. Even a 13-year old knows that male masturbation should be done at an appropriate place and time in private when no one else is around, male or female. (That would be Lesson 1 in Going Through Puberty 101). Don’t these male adults know that? Or do they somehow think that the “rules” regarding this have somehow changed once they became adult men? Good question! These guys seem really, really dumb.

OK OK. If the porn videos are any indication, a favorite male fantasy is to watch a woman gently playing with herself until she goes into an uncontrollable spontaneous orgasm. Many men who claim to be straight as an arrow think the fun is doubled or tripled if two women are playing with themselves and then each other. I’m studying this, but I am becoming convinced that the primary viewers of these videos are not lesbians, but plain ordinary otherwise heterosexual males.

The second reason is this. I am also becoming convinced that generally speaking, females generally get much less sexually out of watching another person masturbate than males do, whether the person masturbating be a male or female, and a female almost never would be interested in seeing two guys masturbate themselves or each other. For females, it’s all about a guy making a woman feel good in her private parts, and for lesbians, same deal, essentially. Guys think women think and like to see people masturbating the same way guys do, and that sometimes gets guys into a lot of trouble in a bunch of different ways. Turn on your TV set and tune it to any news show if you want specific examples.

All of this puts guys in quite a dilemma. The myth of course is that college underclassmen are dating females regularly, though not necessarily the same one every week, and these dates are leading to frequent intercourse, enough so that the guy never feels a need to “relieve himself” any other way. Guys who are dating regularly are really in a difficult situation in attempting to determine exactly what the rules are for each female they date, lest they be accused of sexual harassment or even nonconsensual sex (rape) at some future point in time by a girl they dropped. There are potholes and boulders in navigating this for sure.

Further, the assumption that most college guys get enough partner sex so they not even inclined to think about relieving themselves in any other way is basically false, at least for underclassmen the age of Dylan and Josh. There are too many other things going on, like being successful in college courses and getting a degree, for a guy to be able to constantly be focusing on finding a partner for sex all the time.

So, Dylan and Josh are placing an order for some swim briefs of various sizes, and gearing up to better deal with the urges that they (and every other male their age) have. I think the really interesting part about all of this is that deep down, most guys are probably at least somewhat curious generally about how other guys their age cope with their sexual urges. Guys obviously enjoy watching women get off by themselves or with another women, or that would not be the theme of so many porn videos.

But guys generally are also very curious about how other guys get themselves off. At first, some guys might think that this would be mainly if not exclusively a gay guy thing as in guys who believe they are straight would immediately find seeing another guy playing with himself in order to get off to be deeply offensive in some way, but maybe not. This is such a deeply hidden and largely unexplored part of male sexuality that a light needs to be shined on the very real possibility that most guys, straight, gay or in the middle, would be very interested in seeing how another guy copes with arousal that may lead to orgasm. This is not necessarily a straight versus gay thing. It might be how guys are built sexually almost universally.

The order with the too-snug swim briefs is on its way. Are Dylan and Josh going to pass up getting to observe what happens when each is confronted with what could quickly turn into something much more than that. I presume my readers would like to be quietly observing what happens to Josh and Dylan as well.

To be continued…

Swimmboy 11-25-2017 11:54 PM

Interested to see what happens next. Like Dylan, I find a young male in a snug swimsuit to be a most erotic sight. Water polo players seem to be especially fond of wearing extremely tight, skimpy suits - some scandalously brief. I know they like tight suits that an opponent can't yank on, but are these young men even vaguely aware of how enticingly sexual they are in their tiny little suits that barely cover or conceal their most private parts? Would they be amused, shocked or perhaps even feel revulsion that other males find them sexually appealing? Oh, how I wish I had the nerve to just ask one of those beautiful athletes his opinion on this issue.

sebbie 11-26-2017 01:59 PM

What did Dylan and Josh order for each other to wear?

It is useful to give my readers a “heads up" on specifically what Items and in what size did josh order for Dylan, and Dylan for Josh. All of these are from the swimoutlet site.

Josh knows Dylan likes his suits snug and tight, so each selection was made with that in mind. For Dylan, picking out the various suits for Josh is more nearly an experiment in finding out what Josh will respond to. The choices here are a bit safer, but if Josh is into it, they should still be a lot of fun. And, of course, trading could occur.

Dylan will have a total of 5 suits. Josh will end up with 3 suits. The suits and prices on the suits are directly from the swimoutlet site for today. The order more than meets the budgeted amount that Dylan and Josh were prepared to pay. Dylan’s suits are about $5 under the budget, and Josh’s suits are just under $20, a full $15 under budget. An empirical issue is if and how a suit sized 28Y fits differently than a suit that is labeled 28 in men’s sizes. The Speedo Grab bag brief could end up being any color and design. Will the suits provide Dylan and Josh with some cheap thrills? They won’t know until they start trying them on from biggest to smallest.

Dylan and Josh are waiting with anticipation for the order to arrive.

Speedo Grab Bag Brief 32” ??? $20.00
Sporti Euro brief 30” Green $9.99
Sporti Euro brief 28” Royal $12.95
iswim Youth Brief 26Y” Red $5.99
Sporti Piped Youth Brief 24Y” Black/Gold $5.99

Total Cost for Dylan's suits $54.92

Dylan's choices for Josh
size color price US$
iSwim regular brief 30” Red $5.99
iSwim Essentials Youth Brief 28Y Royal $5.99
Sporti Piped Youth Brief 26Y” Black/Red $7.99

Total Cost for Josh's suits $19.97

Total Cost of the order $74.89

To be continued…

sebbie 11-27-2017 03:09 PM

What I learned digging around on the Swimoutlet Web site is that a youth 26Y (or 28Y) is the same size waist as a Men's suit 26 (or 28), except that the versions with the Y have narrower sides and slightly smaller leg openings. This was a response to a specific customer question on the issue by swimoutlet.

sebbie 12-01-2017 03:50 PM

Which door would YOU choose?
 
Let me set up a hypothetical situation for Dylan and Josh, and in the process you can think about how YOU would respond to the same set of circumstances. Three doors, and your job is to decide which door you would select (and maybe why). I’ve been thinking a lot lately about self=pleasuring, particularly under a specific set of circumstances. Those circumstances are self-pleasuring with an observer.

From the perspective of the story, the two observers are the two guys in the story are Dylan and Josh. The three doors are actually three booths, just tall enough for a guy or lady to stand in. Each of the doors has a large glass window with a venetian blind on it. Except for door number 3, which is the same as the other two but with no venetian blind. Looking in the third door, Dylan and Josh can see that this booth is completely empty.

The venetian blind is opened on Door number 1, and Dylan and Josh could watch a rather attractive young woman who is scantily-clad but not completely nude. Furthermore, it is obvious that she is playing with herself and enjoying what she is doing to herself immensely, if the gentle moans coming from the booth are any indication. She sounds like she is about to go into an orgasm, but she is not quite there,…yet.

When the venetian blind is opened on door number t, it is obvious that there is a rather good looking guy with a swimmer’s build who is struggling to get into a swim brief that is at the very verge of being too small to fit him. His problem is that even as he struggles to make his body deal with the situation, he is increasingly getting a hard-on, and worse, the more he struggles the more difficult the task becomes. Will he ultimately get himself into the suit? Will he ejaculate before he gets there? These are unknowns, and to be determined.

Behind door number 3 there is nothing. Those who choose door number 3 are those who are put off, perhaps revolted, by any of the activity occurring behind doors 1 or 2.

Now keep in mind that that everything that is happening (or not) is taking place behind the doors with the glass windows. And, interestingly, at least doors 1 and 2 are locked, so there is absolutely no touching or physical contact possible at all…this is all about self-pleasuring with an observer.
So, if you were Dylan or Josh, which door would you choose?

Some of you might be saying “This is easy, if a guy is strictly straight, he would choose door 1. If a guy is gay, door 2 would be the choice. But is it that simple? And what about the possibility of a female as an observer? Would females all be repulsed by the goings on behind either door 1 or door 2 and instead choose door 3? Good question.

I’ve heard estimates that range from 5-10 percent as the percentage of the male population is actually gay. This in itself is a complicated puzzle. If you had a bunch of guys of undetermined sexual orientation would a larger percentage, say 15%, 20% or more show up in front of door 2? Do some guys who really want to watch what is happening at door 2 go instead to door 1 so as to not upset their purportedly heterosexual friends?

And what about the unlocked door 3? Would one of the guys (or even a woman) who was an observer really like to get in the booth with the door with the glass window and make his or her own “presentation” instead?

To be continued…

sebbie 12-09-2017 10:28 PM

Complicated questions, complicated issues here
 
I guess, in theory at least, straight males are supposed to flock to watch what is going on behind door number 1, and would be comfortable if there were other males who were there with them watching and enjoying the same thing. At least that is what everyone is “taught” to believe. I suppose the same case could be made that the audience in front of door number 1 could include females who like women aka lesbians. Again, that is how we are all “supposed” to understand how human sexuality works in theory and practice. Still, I wonder if this is that simple.

Door number 2 poses some even more interesting questions. Given what I am hearing in the news media, I am becoming less and less convinced that most women have an interest in seeing a guy coping with a situation whereby he is gradually getting more and more erect, or, if they do have any interest in such, they would expect this to occur when the woman is alone with a man not in a situation as I described in the previous chapter. Besides, this is getting into some tricky stuff, as in the seeming “anger” many women seem to have at the mere THOUGHT of a guy putting on a swim brief, erection happening or not.

As I think about this it becomes more and more confusing to me. Would the “audience” for the guy at the second door consist entirely of guys who are openly gay, or is their more going on here than that? It is my view that the guys hanging out around door 2 might very well consist of far more than those who consider themselves to be gay. That is the part that gets really complicated to think about, because some guys might really want to watch the guy struggle getting into his swim brief but are worried that if they watch, they will quickly get labeled as gay. This gets into the really complicated issue of who is gay and who is not. Does a male’s interest in seeing this guy struggle to get into his skimpy swim brief somehow “prove” that the observing male is gay or not?

And what of the guy attempting to get into the swim brief? Is this a turn-on in part because he thinks that what is happening to him as he struggles will attract straight women, or is he primarily interested in attracting males who are sexually interested in other males?

And what of door number 3. Any person in the audience, male or female, could go into door number 3 and do his or her own “show with the idea of getting aroused and attracting men or women who find the show to be sexually exciting. Is this more of a turn-on than merely watching the individuals behind doors 1 and 2?

And, what of Dylan and Josh in all of this? Would they likely be found standing in front of door 1, door 2, or would one or both of them be thinking about how much fun it would be to be doing their own show at door 3. And, if 3 is the choice what would be the sex and sexual orientation of the expected audience.

Now Dylan has already done some of this in front of Josh in the privacy of the college dorm room. As a consequence, Dylan and Josh remain good friends and roommates and the entire world did not stop spinning on its axis. I remain convinced that if I could find the answers to all of these questions, I would have a far better understanding of how sexual orientation determination really works, answers to some questions that the sex researchers have never been able to answer either.

But then, I am still struggling with trying to answer the question of whether or not Josh’s willingness to simply watch Dylan struggle with his own arousal and Dylan’s seeming comfort in doing it openly in front of his roommate Josh says anything about either Josh or Dylan’s ultimate sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is actually on a sliding scale that has many more than only five or six categories, and that is part of what makes questions like these so interesting to analyze.

To be continued…

sebbie 12-10-2017 01:03 PM

All sorts of interesting things to think about
 
Neither women’s nor guy’s bodies are completely smooth and shapeless. Both women and guys have all sorts of different bumps that even when covered with an item of clothing are readily apparent. Many if not most of these bumps and protrusions have, or potentially could have, a sexual connotation to another person. The most obvious example is a woman’s bosom. The female genitalia are less obvious than male genitalia under cover of cloth, for the most part, but that in no way means that the female anatomy is not still present underneath.

The women’s fashion industry seems to be fixated on developing items of clothing that put the protrusions of the female body on display. The fixation of Muslims on covering the female body to the extent to which the entire female anatomy is hidden by cloth can be thought of as simply a reaction to all of this—that any public display of the female anatomy, intentional or unintentional, even as seen under clothing is unacceptable. But for most other women, playing with this in various ways is all part of the fun of being a human female.

With sexual harassment issues in the forefront nowadays, we could get into a long discussion on the entire subject of what is appropriate versus inappropriate female attire in the workplace that contains both men and women, and how far a working female dare stretch the bounds without bringing on situations that they might not want to face.

But it is no wonder that guys often get confused as to exactly what is going on. Take swimwear attire for females, for example. Many females have long been known for pushing the boundaries of attire from the standpoint of body coverage, both top and bottom. Why do they do this? Are they seeking out an available male for courtship? Are they already tied and attempting to make their husband or constant companion sexually exited and happy? Or maybe some other reason?

The ongoing feminist movement seems more or less repulsed by all of this display of the female anatomy in this way. Not all feminist women are sexually interested in other women but certainly some are. The stereotype for lesbian clothing is something that looks rather “boyish”, say a flannel shirt and blue jeans. Certainly this is a stereotype not all lesbians dress like this but some do. And there doesn’t appear to be the interest among lesbians in the type of clothing items that a sexually-active straight woman might wear if the goal is to attract an eligible male.

I’ll bet at this point you are wondering what all of this has to do with guys and guys who wear swim briefs. Think about it. One reason swim briefs are not popular with guys is because of the association of the design with gay men. A guy who is wearing a swim brief might be straight, but the ODDS of the guy being gay are higher than if he were wearing board shorts (or even a jammer). So in some ways the swim brief becomes a non-verbal cue that a guy could be gay even if that is not generally known. Most females have no partnership interest in guys whose sexual orientation is uncertain let alone gay. So, why take the “risk” of making a pass at a guy when there is this non-verbal cue going on that he could be gay or at least uncertain about his sexual orientation.

Then there is the whole subject of what does wearing a swim brief communicate to other guys your age about who you are and, perhaps, your sexual orientation? Many straight guys may have the same concern that many women appear to have about the swim brief being a nonverbal cue that you are gay or uncertain about your sexual orientation, and this concern gets magnified the fewer the number of guys wearing swim briefs and the more in board shorts.

Then there is the entire subject of protruding body parts hidden by cloth in the male versus female anatomy. The vast majority of males would not automatically decide that a female is perhaps a lesbian if she were wearing a tiny bikini barely big enough to cover up key body parts. Indeed, perhaps quite the opposite. But male bulges are somewhat different in that regard,…very different. There is a degree of discomfort apparently carried by many if not most heterosexual females and males that a male bulge in the groin is an indicator of sexual orientation whereas a female bosom bulge has nothing at all to do with female sexual orientation.

Then there is the issue that heterosexual men are fascinated by female bulges and protrusions, but many females not so much when applied to men. I think that is where much of the pent-up anger we hear expressed by women about guys wearing Speedos® comes from. I guess many women find the male anatomy even covered by cloth to be something they do not want to have to deal with if at all possible. A related issue that a guy’s bulge wearing a swim brief might vary in size even from moment to moment and everyone knows that this could indicate the degree of sexual arousal at any point in time. Best to leave all of this covered under loose-fitting board shorts. Complicating this is the fact that at least some (many? even most?) will likely start to grow somewhat even getting themselves into a swim brief. What is THAT all about, anyway? Guys getting hard even without a sexual partner present. Surely, that is weird if not scary.

So what about Dylan and Josh then, who just placed this big order for swim briefs in various sizes, all snug-fitting and chosen to be difficult to put on or take off? Why would they do such a thing? Do they intend to wear any of these in a situation where they might be meeting young women their age or are these briefs simply for self pleasuring in the privacy of the dorm room? Are young women the age of Dylan and Josh OK with either one of them wearing a swim brief or is this a big turn-off for them?

These are complicated questions, all of them.

To be continued…

sebbie 12-12-2017 01:48 PM

Boys to men
 
Once I made the transition from boy to man, I thought that I had discovered something in arousal and ejaculation that was absolutely marvelous. I guess that like many other guys my age, I wondered over and over whether or not my situation was somehow unique, and whether or not my peer males were dealing with and trying to cope with the same feelings and sensations that were happening to me. Like most guys my age, my first orgasms combined feelings of unresolved terror accompanied by sensations of pure joy and unbridled pleasure. What a strange deal to have two things so different from each other to be happening essentially at the same time! To this day I still keep wondering about how guys manage to navigate this part of their lives without getting into more difficulty than they do, at least most of the time.

Why is this happening to me? What does this all mean, anyway, in the larger scheme of things? It was not long after that I learned that a guy did not need to wait until stuff just more-or-less happened in order to enjoy himself (Can you say “nocturnal emission”?). Indeed, a guy could purposely play with himself in an assortment of different ways that would more-or-less “help” the process along, and that a lot of the fun part was not the orgasm itself, but the entire process of getting to the orgasm. I’ve often thought about this as it applies to other guys—guys that are so fixated on getting to the orgasm part that they fail to enjoy getting there as much as they could if they were not so much laser-focused primarily on the end result. And furthermore, guys may be missing out on experiencing the strongest and most profound orgasm by being in a big hurry to get there, and that a far better strategy is to stop enjoy each moment of arousal along the way. I’ve long known that every arousal sequence is different and each one has special moments that can (should? must?) be savored and enjoyed to its fullest.

And, I’ve always struggled with how best to bring in another person or partner into all of this. In a partner situation, guys frequently end up focusing most of their attention on whether or not the other person in the relationship is enjoying him or herself. Finding a place where both individuals are equally engaged and enjoying both themselves and each other is no small task, and a task that needs to be undertaken with a great deal of care and thought. In heterosexual relationships, this can and often does drive guys bananas, as they never seem to be doing exactly the right thing to please their partners. I’m not certain if gay relationships are less complicated in this regard either.

Besides, if having one’s penis inside a vagina is absolutely the greatest place for a guy to ever be, then how is it that the divorce rate for married couples is so high? For that matter, is the situation any different for gay couples, male or female? Maybe partner relationships of any sort are not all that they are cracked up to be, at least for a lot of people. What is going on here anyway? If this were simple why does it all seem so complicated?

In heterosexual relationships, the fear of pregnancy for unmarried couples has long held guys back from guys doing what they think they would like to do to and with each other. (Is she on the pill? Will her birth control work? Should I be wearing a condom?)

Traditionally, male gay relationships were about activities that were always described as “activities involving the exchange of bodily fluids” (which was just a nice way of saying either oral or anal sex). HIV in large measure severely limited if not put a stop to casual sex involving an exchange of bodily fluids as the risks suddenly were too high. The outcome of all of this has meant that gay men who want to still engage with a partner casually have become creative in finding ways to accomplish this without engaging in risky behaviors. It’s been reported that HIV infection rates and deaths from HIV have plummeted and this has been largely attributed to better and better drugs, but in fact this probably has as much to do with finding new ways for gay men to sexually relate to each other without exchanging in risky activities.

What does this all have to do with Dylan and Josh, two 19-year old college guys stuffed as roommates in a snug dorm room with little privacy? While both of them consider themselves to be straight, and still probably thinking about long-term relationships with women, neither of them are at a point in their lives where this is imminently feasible. After all, they are both still freshmen, with a lot of stuff to do before they can really think about this in front of them.

Dylan and Josh both struggled in high school with all the issues outlined here with respect to their changing bodies and urges. Guys sometimes think once they are in college, they will have more freedom to do as they want, including being able to be at least a little less secretive when they feel the need to cope with the urges that happen to guys. Both Dylan and Josh are dealing with the exact same issues and problems, with the key now being how can they each move forward while remaining as roommates and good friends.

Of course, Dylan and Josh have already gone a certain ways in this regard. Is what has happened so far somehow common to many college freshmen males stuffed into dorm rooms that essentially provide no privacy. There are the issues surrounding the clothing items in the collection that Dylan’s already has, and Josh’s apparent willingness to “join in on the fun” in wearing some of the items of Dylan’s collection.

Then there is the swim brief order that both of them put together and are still waiting on arriving. Dylan and Josh were both pretty candid with each other. Indeed, the way they did this is that they were trying to pick out swim briefs of a style, cut and size that would almost ensure that each of them are not going to remain flaccid for long. What is going to happen when the order arrives? Is each of them going to try on their items in private somehow? That may be difficult to do given the dorm room situation. Furthermore why shouldn’t they share with each other the experience? Guys are normally naturally curious about how other guys cope with a situation such as this.

And what of Bill and Joe? Are Dylan and Josh going to invite them to their room to show Bill and Joe the “loot”? Deep down, Dylan and Josh no doubt realize that Bill and Joe could be “interested” in what they are doing with the collection of swim briefs. And if Bill and Joe do get invited, how far is this likely to go, anyway? Does nearly every guy over time collect items of clothing that are useful for jerking off? What does a guy do with these items if he gets into a serious relationship with another person?

To be continued…

sebbie 12-13-2017 12:02 PM

The big order (finally) arrives!
 
Dylan and Josh made their big order for swimsuits of various sizes and brands as the holiday season was approaching, and the package carrying services are always very busy this time of year. Despite the best efforts on the part of the vendors, packages always move more slowly than they would in non-peak times of year. But, the day is here, and the package has arrived.

I’m sure my readers all know what was in the order, five swim briefs of various brands and styles for Dylan and three for Josh. In days gone by, Dylan and Josh might have gone out to one of those big sporting goods stores at the mall and picked out some swim briefs on the rack. However, except in a few areas of the US this is a difficult if not impossible to do. From the spring through the height of the summertime swimming season, these stores may carry a few swim briefs, but only in limited colors and brands (commonly traditional 3-inch Speedos® in solid Navy and Black) but it would be very rare to see a long row of briefs in brighter colors and patterns, and the skimpier designs would likely not be there at all.

That business has basically all gone on line, and particularly to the large vendors that specialize in swimming gear. That is where the on line order came in. The disadvantage to all of this is that guys don’t get to touch and feel the fabric of the designs they chose, but that is all part of the fun.

So, Josh and Dylan open the order with a degree of anticipation as to what might be inside. Dare I mention that both Dylan and Josh are starting to feel a little horny just thinking about what they are about to do, just examining the items in the order. Already, both Dylan and Josh’s bodies are starting to provide clear signals that this day and event is special in a unique way. Most guys know that whenever they get into a situation that could ultimately lead to an erection, their bodies quickly respond in a unique way by suddenly creating a few drops of clear, viscous pre cum, and that this pre cum has a way of making itself known by a sensation of a tiny damp spot on a guy’s underwear right at the penis tip. Already, once this happens, Dylan and Josh are realizing that they must have done the “right” thing by making the big order. Nearly every guy has probably experienced this and felt this way, but few ever reveal this, particularly is a situation that does not ultimately lead to sex with a partner.

This is subtle but fascinating stuff to ponder. Would other guys, faced with the same situation, respond in the same way, or are Dylan and Josh unique in this respect? That is an interesting question to ponder for sure. For now, just take note that even as the order is unpacked, Dylan and Josh are already “enjoying” themselves in a special way.

So, the procedure now is to carefully check out each item in the order, one at-a-time. First, separate the pile of five suits that belong to Dylan from the pile of three suits that belongs to Josh. Then the logical way to proceed is to go through each pile from the biggest to the smallest suit. Keep in mind that as they arrive, each suit will be in a separate plastic bag each with an adhesive-backed sticker containing the waist size, brand and color. So to actually see the size and style of the suit the plastic bag has to go.

Start with Dylan’s five suits from biggest to smallest. The biggest suit in that pile is the Speedo® Grab bag brief, size 32”. Dylan separates that suit from the others in the pile, and tears open the plastic bag. Now keep in mind that with these grab bag briefs, there are going to be colors and patterns that for whatever reason did not sell well at full price. And, ordering late in the season in a popular size 32, these are liable to be patterned suits in bright colors the more conservative swimmers would have stayed away from The color in this particular suit is a bright, almost neon, aqua blue mottled with splashes of darker and lighter blue as well…definitely not an unassuming suit on a guy. Indeed, the color and pattern nearly screams “I’m a guy in a Speedo®! Take a look at my bod!”.

Dylan is already thinking, at least to himself, that had he been able to pick a color and pattern himself for a 32-inch Speedo® brief, this would not have been his first choice. Still, ANY Speedo® brief is fun to get into and wear. Now a standard Speedo brief with 3-inch sides is sometimes not thought of as the sexiest male swim brief, given all the skimpier designs with narrower sides and lower rises out there. Still, there is something special about the “traditional” Speedo® brief that has stood the test of time. For want of a better explanation, I call this the Royal Blue Christopher Atkins effect from the old Dallas TV show. The realization is that a guy’s bod can look really really good in one of these.

It’s tough to determine exactly why this is true but it’s part of the reason why Speedo® has succeeded as a company over the years. I’ve observed that the traditional Speedo® cut fits and when new at least feels really snug even in the “correct” size. The cut just grabs a guy’s butt and holds it and caresses it. On top of that, Speedo has never been keen on building pouches with extra space for a guy’s ‘nads, like some manufacturers are prone to do. Pretty much, this means that, at least when the suit is new, a guy’s going to be in there pretty tight even when wearing the “right” size Speedo®. The only place for the (growing) penis to go is up, and that means that the guy will create his own “pouch” as a bulge where none existed before. This may not be as apparent in a suit with wild pattern such as the one Dylan got, but it’s still going to be there. This is a great “opportunity” for Dylan to enjoy himself. At some level, Dylan knows that.

And we haven’t even begun to look at the other suits in the pile.

To be continued…

sebbie 12-14-2017 01:43 PM

Dylan works through his suits in order
 
First off, both Dylan and Josh are interested in determining if the orders for the suits they picked out on line came through as if they planned. Oddly, enough, both Dylan and Josh are both feeling rather horny as they do this. Every guy knows the feeling, more or less, a funny sensation that started just after a guy realizes that something big is happening inside his body. Early on, guys learn that the big payoff in being a grown-up male is the ability to have an orgasm. But this sensation seems different entirely. Josh and Dylan aren’t near uncontrollable ejaculation, and both of them know that.

Still, they know that something is going on given that their bodies are responding the way they are. This is odd stuff. How should simply looking through a bunch of swim briefs get a guy going like this anyway? Subtle as all get out, those cowpers glands are! They have this way of letting a guy know that he is venturing into uncharted territory, so to speak. What kind of territory anyway? Well, fear of the unknown. Exactly how are Dylan and Josh’s bodies going to “react” when they try to get into these suits, one at-a-time? Right now, their brains and their cowpers glands are merely sending signals back and forth, and the cowpers glands are responding by slowly producing those wonderful glistening drops of pre cum.

Not that Dylan and Josh are unhappy that this has all caught them up. They might be scared or nervous about it all if they were in a gym locker room with several other guys their age for fear of what could happen next and that things could quickly gt out of control, so to speak. But for now, it’s just the two of them, horny feeling but not erect, sorting through the suits in order.

I’ve often thought that the Speedo® people has built its brand over many years simply by messing with guys and what happens to a lot of them when they simply CONTEMPLATE the whole idea of getting into a Speedo®. In this regard Dylan and Josh are probably no different in how they respond to that idea than tons of other guys, at least guys who have not normally worn a swim brief but at some level think they might want to try and see if they could “deal” with the situation.

This is also where the so-called “fear of Speedos® comes in. Besides, Speedo® likes to make briefs that works well for swimming fast, which says snug fit even if the brief isn’t that skimpy and purportedly is the “right” waist size, in this case a 32 W. they should loosen up somewhat after a guy wears them a few times and maybe swims in them for a few weeks. But then, what of right now? If Dylan can successfully tolerate a brand new Speedo® in his “correct” waist size without anything happening he can then experiment with penis position, which for Speedo is often “up” since Speedos aren’t known for having pouches but instead attempt to “flatten” a guy’s anatomy. Of course, that doesn’t hide anything, and Speedo guys rather know that. More of the “Christopher Atkins look” if you know what I mean.

And we haven’t even begun to look at the other suits in the pile. The next brief in the pile is the Sporti Euro brief in that bright Kelly green color. The Sporti Euro brief is really more of an Asian than Euro cut. Now the green is a beautiful color if a little attention-grabbing. It screams “I want to be seen in a swim brief” and some guys are really into that. Of course, Josh chose the Euro design for Dylan specifically to see whether or not he could deal with the situation. The Euro is cut narrower in the sides than the Speedo by far, maybe 1 ½ inches in the 30-inch waist size. But the other thing is that the Euro is shorter, a good deal shorter, which means that with Dylan’s body, even in a 30-inch waist size, it’s going to be something of a struggle to make sure his butt crack is completely covered.

American guys wearing swim briefs often worry that a little of their butt crack could be showing in the rear with the skimpier suits. This is not an issue with a standard Speedo, and doesn’t seem to concern the Asian guys one bit---it’s all just part of the look when wearing a skimpy swim brief. So guys wearing a Euro brief initially want to keep tugging at the rear to ensure full coverage of their rear. But in doing so, this means the space for your ‘nads is going to keep getting less available. So the tradeoff becomes whether your ‘nads aren’t crunched up versus having a bit of butt crack show in the rear.

The reviews on the Web site selling these briefs seem to indicate, first off, that a lot of guys really like these suits, and that they have found ways around the “problem” I have outlined. These are not pouch briefs either, and the only practical way is “up” The Sporti Euro briefs are a “Best Seller” on line. But, what happens if a guy “downsizes” a Euro just a bit, to a 28-inch waist? The sides are going to get narrower and the brief will be shorter too. What will happen to Dylan then, do you think?

To be continued…

dm106 12-14-2017 02:25 PM

Great story, Sebbie. Can't wait until they start trying them on and see what happens between them.

sebbie 12-15-2017 12:39 PM

Dylan continues to examine the items in the order.
 
The next suit is Dylan’s “collection” is another Sporti Euro brief, one that appears to be identical in every way except for a different color—royal blue rather than the bright Kelly green of the previous one. Of course, there is another difference, a difference that may appear to be subtle—or not. The waist size on the Royal blue Euro brief is 28 inches rather than 30 inches. This may not seem like much, but it may make a big difference in both how the suit fits and feels on Dylan. And Dylan knows that.

I’ve already mentioned the potential “problem” with the Euro briefs. Basically, it’s not the width of the sides so much as the fact that they are cut quite low—lower than most Americans are “used to wearing. Now if Dylan were Asian, this probably would not be such a big deal. But Dylan knows that if he has trouble “covering his butt” in the suit with the 30-inch waist, things are only going to get more “difficult” for him to cope with the situation when he gets into the 28-incher. “Won’t know unless I try the two suits on in succession” Dylan thinks to himself. “but this COULD get errrr interesting for sure!” Of course we all know exactly what Dylan was thinking when he said “interesting”.

Somehow Josh figured that what seemed pretty subtle a choice when picking out the suits might “affect” Dylan in this way. Perhaps I should mention a little bit about Dylan’s physique and what happens size wise when he picks out clothing for himself. Ostensibly, Dylan considers himself to be a 32-inch waist. When he buys jeans he would nominally pick a pair 32 W x 30 I, a very common size for a reasonably-fit 19-year old. But sometimes Dylan thinks the 32 W 30 I Jeans fit a little “loose” and are not quite right for him and his body. He has been known to downsize just a bit to 31 W x 30 I and has one pair of 30W x 30 I This particular pair just big enough around the waist so Dylan can get himself into them without too much trouble, and he likes the way he looks with the snugger fit. He doesn’t openly admit these, but he likes the way he feels in the snugger jeans too.

In swimwear, Dylan figures that a 32-inch waist in a swim brief should fit with no problem at all. The 30-inch Euro brief might be a bit more difficult but still should be quite doable without too much of a struggle. But Dylan also is thinking that even the 28-inch Euro might be pushing it a little.

Of course, as the waist size comes down, whether or not the next smaller size fits or not in part depends on the “condition” he is in going into the next smaller size. Let’s face it, the 28-inch brief might be easier to get into right away if a guy had not previously tried on a 32-inch brief and then a 30-inch brief, already somewhat horny and at the verge of growing, and then as one brief comes off and the next one gets pulled on the guy ends up having more and more that needs to be covered by a series of briefs that keep getting smaller and smaller and more and more difficult to get into. At some point, in order to continue, something may have to “give.”

Of course, the 28-inch Euro is not the end of the “challenge” Two more much smaller briefs await. The first one is a bright red iSwim “Youth” brief in size 26Y. Why isn’t this a plain ordinary men’s brief size 26? The “Y” indicates that this is a brief designed for “Youth” rather than an adult male. A 26” would be approximately equivalent to a boys size 14.

Swim briefs stretch horizontally though some more than others Dylan thinks it might be possible to get the brief to fit on his waist, but the fit might be more than a little confining with respect to the body parts contained within.

The difference between a brief labeled 26Y from a 26 is not in the waist size, but the fact that the sides are narrower than a standard 26 incher and that the amount of cloth covering the butt is less than on the adult size. Dylan looks at the brief and notes are almost as narrow as those on the Euro brief and that is without any horizontal stretching. The severe undersizing is going to only make this brief look even more skimpy on Dylan, if he is able to get himself into it at all.

Dylan lays the iSwim brief over the top of the 28-inch Sporti Euro brief. It not only has a smaller waist, but it is about ¾ inch shorter top to bottom as well. This could get most interesting to say the least.

But there is still one more brief in Dylan’s briefs—a Sporti Piped Youth brief in black with gold piping, size 24Y. This looks like something sized for a beginning swimmer in a youth swimming group. Dylan will never be able to get himself put into such a way undersized suit, or will he?

Next up, it is Josh’s turn to take the briefs Dylan picked for him out of the packaging, and check out the sizes and colors.

To be continued…

sebbie 12-16-2017 12:04 PM

Now it is Josh’s turn
 
Now it is Josh’s turn to remove the swim briefs Dylan picked for Josh from their packaging and examine the color, sizing and feel. Keep in mind that even though Josh and Dylan share a mutual interest in snug-fitting clothing, Josh is much less experienced at doing this than Dylan is. After all, Dylan messed around with this surreptitiously when he was still in high school. Josh, on the other hand, had neither the thoughts nor the opportunities to do some of these things at that age, even with the tamer stuff.

Josh’s one “big” experience was the day Dylan lent him Dylan’s Desmiit® Thong to wear under his wrestling singlet. You remember, the day Dylan and Josh went along with Bill and Joe to work out at the student gym just down the street from their dorm room. To be sure, Josh thought that all of this was a lot of fun, but also that he might be uncovering a “darker” side to his own person as a sexual human being—at once a fun place to be that Josh was more than a little unsure about whether or not he wanted to visit again at all let alone on a more-or-less “regular” basis.

Still, these sexual feelings and sensations exert a powerful influence over who a guy is and where he wants to go at any point in time, often varying moment by moment. Dylan has grasped all of this, but Josh is still, well, a bit uneasy about what he might be getting himself into here.

When Dylan first explained the idea to Josh about buying a series of swim briefs each one smaller than the last and then trying each one on until a guy reached a point where he could no longer deal with the tension and had to uncontrollably ejaculate in order to cope, Josh thought Dylan might have simply gone out of his tree. This might be a turn-on for Dylan, but Josh was more level-headed that that. And besides, this couldn’t be as “tough” a test of ejaculatory control than wearing that Desmiit thong Dylan borrowed him was. What would make just trying on swim briefs of various sizes be so difficult for even a horny 19-year old guy to deal with, anyway? That should not be so tough to deal with, or is it?

Still, if the Desmiit thong was an all-new experience for Josh, keep in mind that Josh has had only very limited experience in wearing swim briefs of any size or cut, and that Dylan was not going to make this all “easy” on him. Dylan “hand selected” swim briefs for josh that Dylan thought might do it.

So here we have the scene: two horny 19-year-old college guys posing a challenge to both themselves and each other to see who can work their way down swim briefs of various sizes without by trying them on one at-a-time without getting so hard that ejaculation is inevitable. Seems easy enough for a guy to do, huh? As college stunts by freshmen in a dorm room go, this one SEEMS rather tame. Just a “contest” of sorts, a contest in which the guy with the most control of his mind and body wins the top prize.

Unlike Dylan, Josh as but three not five briefs to work through, and Josh’s smallest brief is two inches bigger than Dylan’s smallest brief. So, Josh’s briefs in sequence are: Brief 1 an iSwim regular brief, size 30” Waist, in bright red. Now this is a low-dollar competitor to a standard Speedo swim brief in a solid color. The sides are fairly wide on this brief, a little over 2 ½ inches in the 30-inch waist size. iSwim is the successor to the no-longer used ClubSwim brand name. There is a front panel liner in a very dark navy blue color. Now iSwim briefs are intended to be workout briefs guys who swim regularly. The $5.99 price is low enough so that they can simply be tossed if they fade from the chlorine or start to get loose fitting. Interestingly, the cut on these is pretty low, A 30-incher should be tall enough to cover Josh’s butt crack completely, but without any real room to spare. And there is the constant problem that without a pouch as such, even a somewhat horny 19-year old is only going to fit if he goes “up”. A guy’s state of erection should be pretty obvious in this position.

The next brief size wise is also an iSwim, but this time size 28 inches and labeled as a “youth” brief, and in bright Royal Blue not red. Josh now has the opportunity to see exactly how the size of a youth brief compares with same brand in the adult brief in size 30. The waist is obviously smaller. Indeed the sides are narrower too, Josh thinks maybe under two inches. And the brief has less cloth in the butt than the adult brief does, but, most importantly, the measurement from top to bottom is shorter by nearly an inch. Josh wonders if he will be able to cover his butt crack wearing this brief, and if so, how will he manage that especially if he is semi erect.

The third brief should be the biggest challenge of all, a 26 incher labeled “Y” from Sporti, this one black but with a red piping. Josh wonders if this brief will stretch enough so that he would be able to get into it at all, but that is all part of the fun. If he can get in, so to speak, how he looks wearing the seriously undersized brief is another matter entirely. With the snug fit, every male body part is probably going to be straining under the tension, and Josh will somehow have to deal with that.

Still, Josh is thinking to himself that he managed to obtain all three swim briefs for just under $20, about the cost of a single grab bag Speedo®. So if one or even two of them can’t be worn as a real swim brief for workouts at the gym, not a lot is lost for goodness sake. And, as Josh sorts through the brief he is starting to fel pretty good in a bunch of different ways. If Josh’s body is happy and his wallet is still in good shape, why shouldn’t he simply be happy as well? And Josh is seriously wondering how Dylan will cope or not. Those thoughts merely add to the overall tension Josh has been feeling. And Dylan is wondering the same about the less experienced Josh. As goofy stunts by male college freshmen roommates go, this is an interesting one with few is any risks—at least relative to the kinds of risks college male freshmen often take.

To be continued…

[Author’s note: I’m sure some of you are thinking that this story is proceeding very slowly, perhaps painfully slow. Why are Dylan and Josh taking all this time to merely examine the items in the swim brief order? Why can’t they get to the “fun” part of trying the suits on in order, size-wise. I almost hesitate to explain this, but this is sometimes like a little boy waiting to unwrap his Christmas “gifts” and the holiday is still three or four days away. As Dylan and Josh examine each suit, they can’t help but thinking about how the suit is going to fit, and whether they will each have any chance at all in getting their penises and balls inside even as each successively smaller suit gets tighter and snugger. It’s this “fear of the unknown right now that is making them both feel so horny. And as they sort this out they keep getting hornier and hornier just thinking about what could (will) happen. The pre cum that started out as an occasional drop of glistening viscous fluid is flowing more steadily now, even though neither of them for the moment have a significant hard-on. There is tension brewing in the groin area even without trying on a single suit, and this tension is going to get only more difficult to deal with as they start to actually try on the suits. Other things might start to happen too, and part of the fun in doing this is that the other things may not be under direct control of a guy’s brain. At some point, a guy’s body starts “playing” with his conscious being. Doing exactly what Josh and Dylan are doing would be a fun thing for almost any guy to try. In the process you will learn something about yourself as a sexual human being. You may struggle with the idea of whether or not it’s OK to try this with a friend or partner present, or whether this is something a guy might want to try or should instead do in private. Dylan and Josh have been struggling with this same issue, but they now seem at least OK with the whole idea of doing this with the other present without getting bogged down in the issue of what that means for their underlying sexual orientations. This, of course, is a variation on the stuff that goes on in a guy’s mind and body when a guy gets into a situation where he needs to wear a brief for the first time in a PE class (PE equals Physical Education), and worse, he is somehow going to have to do it with the other guys in the gym locker room present. There is fear (well, terror perhaps) accompanied by the feeling in the pit of the guy’s stomach that announces that there could be something really fun going on here. So stay tuned. It’s not a question so much of whether or not Dylan and Josh will eventually ejaculate given what they are doing to themselves, but instead when (which suit?) this will happen, and we won’t know that until they both at least start the process of getting into the suits one at-a-time.]

sebbie 12-17-2017 11:43 AM

Dylan (Finally) gets to try on the suits in order
 
The psychological pressure on both Dylan and Josh has been building and building, from the moment they realized that the box of swim briefs they had ordered has arrived. To be sure, they have both been playing with each other’s sexual psyche, in part relating to the fact that Josh got to pick out Dylan’s suits and Dylan, the suits for Josh to try on (attempt to wear).

Of course, getting into a brand new swim brief—even one of the “right” size is always an interesting moment for guys. For starters, new briefs are designed to fit quite snug, with the whole idea that they will stretch and fit looser once worn in the pool a number of times. Guys who regularly wear swim briefs know this and are used to having to deal with this. But for guys who are not frequent swimmers—and that includes both Dylan and Josh—this is one of the more interesting parts of getting nto a new brief for the first time. And this all works into the various fears guys frequently have about wearing swim briefs even though at some level they might be quite interested in doing so.

Now, if all a guy is going to do is get himself into a properly-sized Speedo® without have any time to think about it, this might be a comparatively easy thing to do. The problem is that both Dylan and Josh HAVE had time to think about what is to transpire and we know already that they are both feeling pretty horny even if neither is having any significant erection, yet, it’s certainly trickier to crawl into a new swim brief when a guy is already in a significant, horny-feeling state.

So, here is the scene: Dylan goes first, but Josh is right there watching, observing actually, as Josh is fully aware that his turn will be coming up soon. Dylan strips and pulls the bright turquoise blue patterned Speedo® next to his body. The brief looks big enough to fit, should be no problem at all, and Dylan is able to get himself into the brief without serious difficulty. The rear of the suit is cupping Dylan’s buttocks—a “cool sensation”, Dylan thinks. Even basic Speedos® tend to “work” on a guy in interesting ways. No wonder the brand is so popular.

The next step is for Dylan to find a comfortable position for his anatomy. Basic Speedos ® do not have a significant pouch. The design seems to want to flatten a guy’s anatomy instead of allowing it the space it needs to grow. Dylan is looking at himself in the mirror now, and it is quite apparent that Dylan IS starting to grow. Now Dylan in no way thinks that he is near the point where the body takes over from the brain. Dylan is still in control, or at least he thinks he is still in control. But seeing his own penis as a gradually lengthening cylinder just beneath the front of his suit is having a subtle effect on Dylan—and Josh who is just standing there watching all of this and wondering what is going to happen next to Dylan. Dylan actually looks pretty good in that suit in the condition he is in, or so Josh thinks. Let me just say that it is already pretty obvious that Dylan is a guy.

What next? Dylan thinks that it is time to get himself out of this suit and into something skimpier and snugger-fitting. The next suit is the Sporti Euro brief in Kelly Green, two inches smaller.

Now here is one of the more curious aspects of how a penis behaves when it is coming out of a confined space still erect and hard, and something a lot of guys may not realize. Dylan is certainly got bigger and harder just looking at himself in the mirror wearing the Speedo even though he was not near ejaculating. Dylan thinks that by getting himself out of the suit that will take some of the pressure on his penis and help him calm down a bit, making it easier for him to get into the Kelly Green Euro Sporti.

But penises in such a situation do not always follow the rules. Once the “pressure” from the turquoise blue suit is off and Dylan is nude again, sometime penises feel that they can now “take advantage” of the fact that the space is no longer confining, and they grow a little in length and girth, not become smaller or not as hard. And this “problem only becomes greater as Dylan thinks about the fact that the green Euro suit is going to be snugger and skimpier than the Speedo® was.

So, Dylan pulls on the second suit, the Sporti 30-inch Euro brief in Kelly green. The first thing Dylan notices is that if the growing space in the first suit was limited, this new green suit is even more limited in the space that is available. In fact, with Dylan’s penis placed in the “up” position, the suit is so short top to bottom that Dylan is in real danger of popping out over the top of the waistband of the suit.

Josh is quite mesmerized now seeing Dylan struggling with all of this, in part because he knows that he might soon be dealing himself with some of the same issues. Dylan checks his rear side and discovers that his but crack is covered, if just barely so. The basic problem is that a guy gets bigger in front, it becomes more and more difficult to keep the rear fully covered. And if he finds a comfortable penis position in the front so it doesn’t pop out over the waist band, his butt-crack starts to show in the rear. So there is a tradeoff involved.

So far, Dylan has only tried on two suits from the five. What to do now? Well turn up the screws some more so to speak. Dylan gets out of the green Euro and starts to put on the Royal blue one with the smaller waist size 28. Dare I mention that as all of this is happening Dylan is getting closer and closer to the point of no return where he can no longer keep his need to ejaculate under control Dylan is rapidly moving toward the very edge, and certainly getting there faster than he had hoped. Dylan does pull the suit on to his waist, but given his enlarged anatomy, psychological and physiological condition, there is no way that Dylan can calm down and bring himself back without ejaculating. All it takes for Dylan to burst is one look at his penis tip peeping out over the waistband of the bright blue suit and that the rear of the suit is riding way low on his butt, and Dylan can cope with the tension he is experiencing no longer.

Dylan screams “Oh Sh**********t, I’m coming!!! even as Josh watches the uproar with a newfound fascination. Dylan thinks to himself that this might just be the most powerful orgasm he has ever experienced. Semen seems to have shot out everywhere, though the bright blue Euro suit is relatively clean because when Dylan burst, most of the semen went right over the top of the waistband of the suit. And Dylan got through only three of the suits before this all happened (maybe only 2 ½). The last two, probably the most difficult ones with the Y sizing, are still waiting to be tried on. Dylan enjoyed the orgasm immensely, even though he discovered that he doesn’t have quite the degree of control over his own body that he thought he had.

What next? Dylan is probably going to need a day to recover before making another attempt to get through the pile of suits. Josh has been quietly watching this, but seeing Dylan’s attempt to cope has only made him feel hornier. Josh already has a nice semi hard-on going on, and he has not even tried to put on a single suit. Josh realizes that Dylan will be right there trying to help and advise the less-experienced Josh. This is going to be tough for Josh, tougher than Josh had realized for sure when he agreed to get involved with the scheme.

More to come….

sebbie 12-18-2017 11:34 AM

Now it’s Josh’s turn (But wait!)…(part 1)
 
Whatever Dylan’s complaints about getting off sooner than he had hoped when trying on the suits in sequence, Dylan knows for sure that this has been maybe the most fun episodes he has ever had as a college student when enjoying his own body. Some orgasms are good, some are very good, and some are well, mind-blowing, and Dylan knows that this one clearly needs to be placed in “category 3” as in orgasms that are so profound that they only rarely happen.

What made the experience so profound, anyway? Well think of the lengthy sequence of events that led up to all of this..thinking up the idea in the first place, picking out and ordering the suits while staying within the often limited budget of a college freshman student, waiting for the order to arrive, opening the package, unwrapping each suit, feeling the material and studying the sizing, cut and color, and then finally getting to the point where the suits are tried on in size sequence from largest to smallest.

This really goes back to the old idea of a young guy wanting to buy his first swim brief and then take it to his room, close the door and immediately pull it on and jerk off in it. This likely happens a lot, and guys frequently agonize over being in a situation where they are wearing a swim brief in public and somehow can’t keep from shooting with lots of people around, male and (holy terror) female being able to see exactly what is happening. These thoughts probably deter a lot of guys from ever buying a swim brief even though they might deep down long for the opportunity to jerk off in one in private with no one else knowing that is what the real motive was all about. The related issue is that if a guy thinks of himself as otherwise perfectly straight, if the other guys ever figure out what he was doing he might very well be teased and bullied about being a closeted gay-boy, and it doesn’t help that in the minds of a lot of guys, a swim brief is something only a gay boy or perhaps a competitive swimmer or diver would ever wear. So what is this guy who is not even a good swimmer doing wearing one unless he is a gay boy who has not yet come out to others as such?

The seeming near anger many females express about the whole idea of a guy wearing a swim brief doesn’t help the situation either. Guys are usually quite OK with women being scantily clad, but apparently, many if not most women are less than OK with that as applied to guys , or so it seems at least. What rules apply here anyway, in a world where the guy is trying to build social bonds and relationships with others his age? The idea of being seen in public in a swim brief is simply “over the top” in a period in one’s life that is socially difficult with others the guy’s age or similar, both male and female.

All of this is really complicated stuff. Guys seem to learn at a very young age that the only sexual experience that matters is sex that happens when two willing partners bring their bodies together and exchange bodily fluids. At least that is how it is taught in a lot of sex education classes. Enjoying one’s own body is really all about finding a partner who willingly wants to do likewise. Everything has progressed now to the point where the notion of the partners being of the same sex or a of different sexes is at least acceptable in the mainstream, but where does that leave what has just happened to Dylan.

In fact, if Dylan were to appear in a book dealing with understanding sexuality how would his situation be characterized anyway? Some of the so-called experts might categorize Dylan as someone with an illness or abnormality best described as a fetish for snug-fitting swim briefs if he enjoys trying on and getting off in them. And that taken alone is abnormal.

Another group of sex experts might characterize Dylan as being not abnormal so much as being social and psychologically immature, and it’s about time for him to grow up and form bonds with someone else who will, under the best of circumstances, be his sexual partner, and then he can exchange bodily fluids with her (him?) hopefully for the rest of his life. For the moment, however, Dylan is more-or-less stuck in the activities that he liked as a younger teen, when the opportunities for forming significant bonds with others his age were fewer and, sexually at least, inappropriate. In short, Dylan may have a problem but it mainly to do with not yet being grown up enough to have fully appreciated why it’s important to get close enough to another person so that a real sexual relationship can occur between two people.

Wait a second here. If what just happened to Dylan is abnormal, immature or otherwise somehow bad, it is difficult to see exactly what is wrong with all of that. If this is somehow not right for a guy to do how come it was so much sheer fun? Is it somehow wrong for a guy to simply enjoy his own body to the fullest without being involved directly with a sexual partner? And what if a skimpy swim brief simply “helps” this all along? And, given that no bodily fluids were exchanged the risks in that department were essentially zero. Is this up to Dylan to determine whether what just happened is OK or not, or have the so-called sex experts simply not figured out the obvious yet?

Think about that. Taking on a sexual partner for life can be fun, but it can also be an enormous burden in a host of different ways. What are the tradeoffs here, anyway? Dylan can enjoy himself on his own in a special way with no strings attached, or he can enjoy himself with a sexual partner directly in what the experts would call a mature sexual relationship with all sorts of strings, asterisks and footnotes. Which of the two makes more sense? For a guy Dylan’s age, is this really any question at all?

Oh, and what of Josh in this situation? This may be even more complicated than it is for Dylan. As a younger teen, many guys are terrorized by the thought of their peers seeing them masturbate, and the so-called fear of discovery looms large in how a guy goes about coping with powerful urges that keep occurring practically on a daily basis. A general statement is that nearly every guy loves to jerk off at that age, but at the same time terrified about the prospect of being discovered doing so. The first level of terror is when the guy’s parents find out. But most guys (and most parents) work their way through that one. The second level of terror is the siblings, but mainly the younger siblings and especially the siblings who have not yet gone through puberty.

This chapter continues in the next post....

sebbie 12-18-2017 11:35 AM

Now it’s Josh’s turn (But wait!)…(part 2)
 
This chapter is a direct continuation from the previous post...

Older male brothers may be less of an issue because the guy soon realizes that the older brother probably faced or is still facing the same problem. Older sisters are a complete “wild card” in this respect except that mothers keep teaching their daughters that anything a guy does to his own body without a female actively involved is somehow abnormal and that females should steer clear of any guy where there is reason to suspect that the guy can get off on his own without a female present. Crazy stuff, I know, but this silliness is frequently passed down from mother to daughter through the generations. Moms simply do not want to think about a hypothetical Dylan or Josh who can get off in a snug fitting swim brief and have a powerful orgasm. These guys must have real “problems” for sure, problems that should be avoided in the relationship department at all costs.

The third level of terror and the most difficult of all to deal with of all is what if some of my classmates male of female discover what I am doing, and what if this happens when they accidently see me inside a skimpy swim brief? The terror here occurs on several different levels. The guys are probably the biggest problem, keeping in mind that every guy about the same age is coping with the same set of urges to ejaculate and attempting to find ways to deal with these urges surreptitiously and for the same reasons, it is just that some guys have been more successful—or just plain lucky—in covering their tracks than others, so far at least.

A lot of guys who claim that they are perfectly straight seem to have a propensity to assume that if a guy is discovered masturbating he should immediately be labeled as being a closeted gay boy, and further, they are fine with telling everyone within earshot what they saw and what they concluded upon seeing it. I’ve never quite understood what exactly motivates all of this except to say that some guys seem to think that their own straight sexual orientation will be less in doubt if they publically call out the discovered masturbators in the class and then labeling each of them somehow as gay boys.

Of course, if the guy is discovered jerking of in a swim brief, that pretty much cements the idea that the guy in so doing is clearly gay not straight, or so the apparent reasoning goes. Some peers who claim to be straight seem to take great pride in outing anyone that they think a gay case could be made, and if this involves teasing and bullying about the swim brief—a swimwear style often associated with gay guys—so be it. This is messy and unfortunate stuff for practically any young guy, but especially so young guys caught wearing swim briefs.

So, both Josh and Dylan managed their respective ways through high school and are now college students. Some old left-over issues remain. Think about it. What should a guy do if he inadvertently wanders in on a guy who is in the process of pleasuring himself ? At this age, most guys have probably learned that calling the guy out for being a gay boy doesn’t have the “sting” that it perhaps did in high school, and that most college students are generally more accepting of people who are not necessarily completely straight than seemingly was true in high school. Plus at 19 and staying in a cramped double room with limited privacy, roommates for the most part are going to realize that sometimes guys just need to deal with their urges. The two of them are both 19 not 14.

But, Josh has inadvertently discovered something else about having a male roommate in close quarters. It is, well, interesting to see up close how another guy his age—Dylan—copes with his male urges. Josh did not immediately exit that first day he accidentally walked in on a masturbating Dylan. Even more interestingly, Dylan did not immediately attempt to “hide” what he was doing from Josh, indeed he kept masturbating right there for Josh to see in stark detail.

So here is the most interesting part. Josh almost immediately discovered that watching Dylan play with himself was a turn-on for Josh. And Dylan almost immediately discovers that having Josh there watching him does not shut things down, but instead makes it even more fun. Same deal as when Dylan was trying on the suits with Josh there watching every step in the process.

OK so Josh was turned on just by looking at the three suits he got in the order. At some point, Josh thought what Dylan was doing was a little goofy , but he sort of played along. However, as Josh watched Dylan in various stages of delicious agony trying on suits that kept getting smaller and smaller, Josh has been getting more and more aroused himself. The pre cumming for Josh that started as he was merely examining the suits has all but stopped now, but Josh is still feeing increasing tension in the groin area. And, Josh now knows that he is getting semi-erect even without actually trying on even the first suit in the pile. Josh has quickly moved from feeling somewhat horny to feeling really horny and he has not as yet even stripped. The suits now pose a special challenge for Josh as well. Josh realized that Dylan thought he was the more experienced of the two in confronting this challenge, but by getting only about half-ways through the pile has meant that Dylan still has his own barriers to cope with. And Josh knows that Dylan will be watching every step Josh makes, just as Josh did for Dylan. Dylan is curious about how Josh copes too.

What this all means for both Dylan’s and Josh’s sexual orientation is unclear at this point, but maybe that is not the real point of all of this at all. Just two guys having goofy fun with their own bodies in a special way—there is no harm in that. Josh will have to be pleased if this all works half as well for Josh as it already did for Dylan.

So, now Josh can start to try on the suits.

More to come, so to speak…

sebbie 12-18-2017 12:38 PM

A side note by the author
 
[A note by the author: Part of the fun in writing these stories is the entire process of thinking up situations that the characters in the story might logically find themselves in as young males, and to not only create what I believe to be realistic situations that college students might confront. At this point I don’t know if Dylan and Josh should both be categorized as gay, straight, or somewhere in that vast space in between. I have read a lot of stuff that both promotes the idea that being gay is determined in the genes, and that guys have no control whatsoever about this element of who they are. I’ve also dug into the claims that being gay (or straight, for that matter) is a “learned” behavior and that what a guy likes to do sexually is in part determined by the array of options that are available. All I can say is that none of this is clear cut. I have watched guys who marry, have kids, then divorce their wives and go off to live with another guy. I have found this to be interesting, to say the least. I am close to concluding not only that many but perhaps even most guys who claim to be straight have a gay side to their personality that might appear out of nowhere under the right (or perhaps some would say wrong) circumstances, but the possibility that this could somehow appear out of nowhere scares the sh**t out of a lot of guys. Would Dylan and Josh have discovered all of this had they not been tossed into a close-quarter dorm room and run into Bill and Joe that time way back? Both Dylan and Josh are very good, polite, young college students, and neither has any interest in doing things that would otherwise disrupt their normal living.

Still they both are carrying around the normal male urges that 19-year old college freshmen have. They may have found a way to deal with their urges that is interesting, but has no larger meaning than that, or perhaps not. In my story I have introduced you, my readers, to three pairs of guys. This all started off with Bill and Joe (remember all those wild wet dream sequences and chapters). Then Bill and Joe met up with Dylan. Then they all went off to the college gym, where the three of them met the more athletic pair Tony and Donavan which the three of them surmised were more than just buddies but possibly also a gay couple, though there was never any real “proof” of that (not that there necessarily should be proof). Then Dylan’s roommate Josh came on the scene. Dylan knew he and his roommate were in close quarters and that he was going to have a rough year in college if he didn’t let Josh in at least a little as to why he had all those snug-fitting clothing items, and you know a lot of what has happened as a consequence. We haven’t heard from Bill and Joe in a long time nor anything from Tony and Donavan other than that encounter at the gym, but some of that could change again as the story proceeds.

I hope that my readers are enjoying reading about all of this as much as I have fun writing it. On an even more personal note, I would feel uncomfortable writing story lines for these characters that got them into doing certain things with themselves that actually didn’t work very well if at all or accomplish the objectives. At some point on occasion, I feel the need to personally “test out” an idea for a possible story line before I write it up in detail. I want to assure my readers that at least most of what I write about doing I have personally tested out myself even before any word hits the page. What you might do (or not do) with that knowledge is entirely up to you. (But isn’t that what is at the heart of what good writers do—write about the stuff they know about from personal experience?)I am delighted if these stories get a lot of guys to thinking about human sexuality and sexual orientation in new and different ways—ways that they have never had the courage to think about before. In this case the courage Dylan had to try on suits with Josh right there, and the courage that Josh must now muster to do the same thing with Dylan standing there. What does this all mean, anyway? That is part of the fun puzzle that is happening. That is as candid I can be with all of you. I am pleased that some of my readers are comfortable with the knowledge that you are gay; others of you are perfectly fine being straight, but perhaps more than a few of you are wandering around in that vast place somewhere in the middle. And that is more than OK too. I want every guy to be happy in his own skin, being who he really is, and enjoying himself to the fullest extent possible.]

sebbie 12-19-2017 11:29 AM

Josh tries on his briefs
 
When Dylan first suggested to Josh that they both try this, Josh’s initial reaction was that the whole idea was no big deal. Josh of course knew that Dylan has long had this “thing” for snug-fitting clothing of various sorts, but Josh didn’t necessarily think that this was something that necessarily happened to him at all, let alone to the extent that Dylan seemed to be affected. So Josh, perhaps only a bit reluctantly, went along with Dylan’s “idea’ about ordering the swim briefs in various sizes and cuts. “No big deal” Josh thought. “I am not hung up the way Dylan is for sure in this regard.”

Events of the last 30 or 40 minutes watching Josh struggle as he did his best to cope with briefs that were getting smaller and smaller has suddenly changed Josh’s mind on all of this, perhaps forever. Josh secretly wonders if this is something that only affects a few 19-year old guys, or if nearly any guy placed in a similar situation would likely “respond” in that special way. This is certainly stuff that Josh did not learn anything about in his high school sex education class, which instead seemed to be fixated on telling guys how to avoid getting girls pregnant and not much else.

I guess seeing how to put a condom on a banana is useful. Josh always thought the banana-and-condom thing was hilarious, as bananas aren’t guys and guys aren’t bananas. All right, the course did include a short reading on masturbation but it treated the whole subject as just a temporary thing that boys (and girls) occasionally do or did when they were young, and that it would be replaced with real (penis-in-vagina) sex as a guy got older (but, hopefully sex while wearing a condom). Other than that the entire course was something of a joke, Josh thought. And why would the course basically ignore the one safe sexual activity that guys can do and enjoy (solo masturbation) while focusing instead on strategies for keeping guys from getting underage women pregnant.

But for Dylan to just watch struggle with the suits and with his own erection while still attempting to get into each suit has changed everything for Josh. I guess straight guys often wonder why for gay guys being with another person with the same body parts every guy has could possibly be as interesting as being with a female with a different set of body parts, body parts carefully engineered to contain a guy’s penis in such a wonderful way.

The key here is that there is something beautifully erotic for a guy about getting to see another guy gradually getting an erection that soon leads to a full-blown orgasm, and it is probably not just perfectly gay guys who find this appealing—at least for the guys who do not claim that this whole thing is revolting. Strange, huh? Guys are constantly thinking about if they somehow accidentally got themselves into a situation like Josh was just in watching Dylan grow and then explode in a powerful orgasm, could they remain completely unaffected by it all, or would they find the whole situation to be somewhat or a lot erotic. And is the revulsion that some guys express for seeing this is merely an indication that the guy who claims this is revolting not erotic merely a cover for the guy’s fear that if placed in this situation he would find it interesting too, and, horror of horrors, does that mean there is a gay side to my personality? These are very tough questions to answer.

So, here is the situation. Guys always like to turn things into competitions, and this is a competition of sorts to see that which of them can get through the pile of suits without shooting. Seems tame enough, and Josh has fewer suits to go through than Dylan had. Josh has three suits: Dylan made it through, well about 2 ½ suits. Josh thinks that it shouldn’t be THAT much more difficult to hang on through the three suits without blowing off.

Except for one thing. Watching Dylan in his delicious agony affected Josh in various ways, some ways psychological, but also in some ways that are now physically quite apparent. Bluntly put, Josh is now going to try this when he already has a serious hard-on even before he pulls on the first suit. I perhaps shouldn’t tell you this, but Josh came close to ejaculating already at one point just watching Dylan struggle with the suits.

Of course, Dylan has noticed that Josh already has quite an erection going. Maybe getting through 2 ½ suits was not such a bad effort at this after all, thinks Dylan.

So Josh strips down and now is standing in front of Dylan, nude. There is only one problem, and it is a big problem, so to speak. As Josh stands there Josh is now nearly 6-inches long, and worse, his penis is sticking nearly straight out horizontally. Josh suddenly has empathy for all those swim-team guys who are in a gym locker room putting on a swim brief for the very first time.

The first brief in the sequence Josh faces is a 30-incher, a bright red iSwim brief. This is going to fit snug, but it should provide a little more space than would have been the case if it were a 30-inch Sporti Euro brief, or so Josh thinks. Still there is no significant pouch space, and even the 30-inch waist fits pretty tight. Josh wishes he had more room, but it’s too late now. The only practical position for Josh’s penis to go in that brief is “up”. But Josh’s penis definitely “wants” to be horizontal right now not vertical, and is not happy in the “up” position.

All this adjustment can quickly take a toll on a guy. Josh is suddenly feeling that he is nearing the point of no return, orgasm-wise. The entire sequence of events both with Dylan and now with his own effort is at the very edge of being too much for Josh to contain himself any longer. Once Josh gets in and gets his penis pointing upward inside the brief, Josh takes one quick look at himself in the mirror and then quickly pulls down the red brief before it is all over.

Once nude again, Josh calms down just a bit though that horizontal erection that has been building has not subsided at all. Josh is now just calm enough so that he wants to continue the challenge. The next suit in the Josh’s pile is also an iSwim, but this time a Royal blue one, size 28Y. Now the waist size on a 28Y (Youth) size is the same as on a 28 designed for adult males, but the sides are narrower and the back has less full coverage, as a younger male would likely hve smaller glutes than an adult male in any given waist size. Josh has still more difficulty getting his penis to behave pointed up. Josh desperately wants to go off, and NOOOOOOOWWWW

In what can only be described as a herky-Jerky motion, Josh suddenly ejaculates all over himself and on the spanking new bright red iSwim suit, while making repeated quiet “groans” of pleasure. Josh now is able to experience exactly what Dylan was going through with his own mind and body only 30 or 40 minutes ago…Dylan, of course, is watching Josh ejaculate all over the place as well. This is not “bothering” Dylan quite so much because Dylan is still “coming down” out of his own post-ejaculatory phase. Still, Dylan thinks that it is a lot of fun just to see Josh struggle in dealing with his own body as well. These experiences are the stuff for the content that make wet dreams so much fun, sexual experiences that need to be relived over and over for sure.

So, already the suits have been a lot of fun, and have paid for themselves in pure enjoyment even though neither guy has gotten to the smallest suit before ejaculating all over. Surely, other attempts will be made after Dylan and Joe have “recovered” sufficiently. Will there be other “visitors” to the dorm room next time as well…Bill and Joe, perhaps? What an idea! thinks Dylan.

To be continued…

sebbie 12-19-2017 11:31 AM

Author's note
 
[Author’s note for the season: All of the events that you have been reading took place just before Dylan and Josh were ready to go back to their respective homes on the college Christmas (winter)break, which extends just past New Years day. Many of my readers have no doubt experienced first hand the post-orgasm “sluggishness" that seems to occur just after a guy experiences a super-strong orgasm.

This is another part of being a guy. Post big orgasm, a guy doesn’t really want to think about sex or his penis any more, even though images are still; popping around in his head related to what just happened and how wonderful the entire experience was. Still, it takes some time for a guy to “recover” from the experience of having a super-strong orgasm, in the meantime a guy’s interest in feeling horny once again is likely minimal. This seems to be built not only into a guy’s physical being as well as in his emotions psychologically. It’s one of those really interesting things about just being a guy.

So, for right now, it’s a good time for Dylan and Josh to take a short break from running experiments with their bodies and instead just spend some time with both of their families. And the author needs a break to better compose the story line as to what will happen next to both of them.

I have already hinted that the next sequence of events might involve Bill and Joe too, remember the two guys who early in the story were so fond of straps, jock cups and compression gear. In the meantime, I will let my readers imagine what might happen once the four of them get together. I will see you all after the holidays, and presumably Dylan and Josh will both have gotten rested up enough from their experiences to make another attempt at the swim briefs without jerking off too soon. ]

To be continued…

petrus 12-22-2017 10:01 PM

cool
 
Like if you were reading my mind! Thoughts never shared yet written down. Cool.

sebbie 01-05-2018 02:01 PM

Josh and Dylan return from Christmas Holiday (Winter Break) AND exchange gifts
 
Josh and Dylan return from Christmas Holiday (Winter Break) AND exchange (belated) gifts

The time that both Dylan and Josh ad with each of their families, unfortunately, has come to the end, and Josh and Dylan are both back at the College dorm in preparation for classes that will resume in the coming week. Dylan and Josh both enjoyed the break from the daily routine of a college freshman, but being so close to their families meant that there was little time to mess around at all, if you get what I am saying.

Nearly every guy knows that it is often far easier to feel horny, and that “horny-feeling” bouts normally happen more frequently in the warm summer months that in the cold winter months. That is all just part of the curious things about being a guy. Bluntly put, a guy will feel less like jerking off in cold weather than in warm. Then too, being with your own family often has an odd way of shutting down a guy’s interest in getting off. Perhaps it is merely the idea that getting horny in a situation like this is unrealistic because there is simply not enough sustained privacy to make this possible, but there might be more going on than that. Anyhow, at some level both Dylan and Josh are happy top be back to college where they both have a bit more latitude in this regard.

Still the two-week break from ejaculating (if that is indeed what happened) has its way of taking a “toll” on a guy’s psyche in some odd if not wonderful ways. A guy who somehow gets “stuck” in a situation where they are uncomfortable about not having real opportunities to get off sometimes does strange and powerful things once he senses that he is back into what he regards as something of a more normal situation from a frequency-of-jerk-off perspective.

To, Dylan hadn’t forgotten about what had happened during the fall semester, nor had Josh somehow forgotten about what Dylan was up to during the same period. These ideas were left on both of their brains like indelible ink, ideas that could resurface in strange but interesting places.

The day AFTER Christmas, Dylan was out wandering around the local Walmart store not just for fun, and not necessarily in search of a clothing item that might be helpful in a jerk off session. But as he was wandering around and noticed what looked to him like Russell® branded compression shorts. They were not advertized as compression shorts. They were over in the underwear section. What made them unique is that they were made of a stretch polyester spandex blend. You can tell Dylan was feeling more than a little horny given his interest in this particular item.

Dylan was not clear as to whether the short but jammer-style shorts were intended to be worn as underwear, as compression gear under a looser pair of workout shorts, or worn without anything over simply as gym wear. The shorts did not have a fly, though they did have a sewn semi pouch.not anything “drastic” in that regard though the fact that the guy has a male anatomy would be at least somewhat apparent, if you know what I mean.

These came in a variety of patterns and styles, the most common being what might be called a “modern camouflage” pattern, not like the somber tones of an old-style military camouflage, but a modern camouflage in assorted bright colors, blues, greens, yellows, even black and white.

Dylan quickly decided he wanted a pair for himself. But what size? Medium would work, but Small would fit snugger and tighter. Not any real choice, is is. Dylan took one of the ones labled SM or CH off the rack and put it in his cart. Then he got to thinking “I bet Josh would enjoy a pair of these too. Same style and size, but a different color”.

So, Dylan came back to school carrying a pair of these shorts for Josh and a pair for himself. The ones he bought for Josh he had put in one of those ubiquitous gray plastic Walmart bags.

So, after Dylan and Josh had gotten themselves moved into the dorm room, Dylan said to Josh “I have bought you a little gift for the season the other day when I was wondering around Walmart—a pair of camouflage stretch shorts you might like.

Amazingly, Josh said “Dylan, Amazingly I was doing the same thing when I was on vacation. I was wondering around Walmart and found this really interesting pair of Russell ® running tights. The ones I found were nearly solid black polyester/spandex blend, but faded into a bright yellow-green color down at the ankle. I got a pair in Small, and have tried them on, and in that size they fit really (really) snug. I like them a lot and I figured that size would fit you too (grin).

And, so that is how Josh and Dylan traded “gifts” this year, both little “reminders” to each of them of what they both REALLY enjoyed doing!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russell-M...ight/162754413

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russell-M...rief/161024194



To be continued…

sebbie 01-10-2018 12:00 PM

This could be fun, maybe
 
One of the interesting parts about getting new clothing that is snug-fitting is that guys generally are uncertain about what they are getting into, both literally and figuratively. This applies to lots of different clothing items, each with a potential to “get” to a guy in a “unique” way. I have often thought that penis are rather interesting in that they all seem to have a “mind” of their own in this regard, almost as if they are somehow “disconnected” at times from a guy’s brain. Whatever it is that happened, it occurs in some place where the guy doesn’t seem to have any direct control.

Take the new “dilemma” that Dylan and Josh now find themselves in as an illustration of what might or might not be going on. Dylan and Josh individually were just wandering around Walmarts in their hometowns. Dylan ran into the Russell running tights that he thought looked neat—and VERY snug. Josh was wandering around and saw the equally snug-and-tight new-camo shorts. Seeing something like this set off subtle alarms in both of their brains. Dylan immediately senses that the running tights would be something that could be fun to wear, and that in the purchase he would be doing something that he could thoroughly enjoy. In the store, Dylan imagines what his body might look like in a mirror wearing the tights—the snug fit through the thigh and in his calves right down to his ankles.

Dylan of course is curious as to how his penis will look in them to. Do these present a similar “problem” as a swim brief where a guy has to position his penis up, down or sideways? The running tights are lightweight material. What will Dylan look like in them with his penis positioned “up”? Will that sensitive underside show much like it does in a snug-fitting swim brief? How does all of this feel, anyway?

Another problem is what, if anything does a guy wear UNDER something like this? Maybe nothing at all, but there are many other possibilities as well. A strap would be interesting, but so would thong underwear, a swim brief, or even a pair of old-school “tighty whiteys”

Then Dylan thinks of Josh. Josh MIGHT enjoy this too. Indeed, Josh might enjoy experimenting with all of this the same way Dylan does. If Josh sees Dylan experimenting with this he might feel “left out” without his own pair.

In looking at the Russell shorts, Josh went through much the same analysis that Dylan went through. Josh liked the apparent very snug fit of the shorts, the “modern camo” pattern, the overall look and feel. There were all these interesting questions of course, involving issues such as just how a guy’s penis fits in them and in what position does it go. Does a guy wear something else under these, and, if so, what? Josh imagines himself wearing these staring at himself and the various bulges and protrusions of his own manhood. Fun things to explore, Josh thinks to himself. The odd thing is that Josh is starting to realize that he has quickly become just as hooked on experimenting with all of this as his roommate Dylan obviously has. And Josh thinks about Dylan as well. Would Dylan truly like to be a part of this? Well, that almost goes without saying given all of the events that have happened in recent weeks and months.

And so that is how Dylan and Josh each ended up with new clothing items to explore and ended up exchanging gifts.


To be continued…

sebbie 01-12-2018 12:30 PM

Snug ‘n tight
 
Part of what is fun here is that Josh and Dylan are playing “games” of sorts with each other, games that relate directly to who each of them are as sexual human beings. This is curious stuff that they are both engaging in, to say the least.

Every guy, Josh and Dylan included, goes through a period in adolescence where he learns about himself and his body in unique and special ways. Part of this learning experience involves a gradual realization that certain parts of their bodies are more sensitive to touch than other parts of their bodies. How this all works is a gigantic mystery at first. I guess most guys at some point develop a realization which suggests that some of this must somehow have something to do with another person, but that part is frequently deeply confusing, at least at first. A basic question is how a guy can somehow suddenly start to feel horny and even get an erection when there is no touching involved at all. Let alone another person. There is a physical component to all of this to be sure, but also a mental component, and the mental component can sometimes go off in seemingly goofy, yet ultimately strange and wonderful ways.

Take the experiences Dylan and Josh just had trying on swim briefs that kept getting smaller and snugger with each successive brief. At some point, their strained bodies (and minds) simply couldn’t “take” the combination of physical and psychological pressure they were under, and both of them simply “had” to ejaculate even before even getting into the snuggest and tightest brief.

What makes this more amazing, is that this did not in any way involve what might be called a sexual relationship with a partner (or in some strange way, did it?). Merely two guys having some interesting fun with their own respective bodies, attempting an experiment to see what their limits were in this regard. Certainly this says nothing about the ultimate sexual orientation for either of them, or does it somehow? Just two guys who have discovered an interesting jerk-off method. And guys almost invariably are fond of the discovery process for uncovering new and unique ways to jerk off. It is more-or-less built into a guy’s genes (and maybe his jeans as well) to be interested in uncovering this.

But still, Josh obviously enjoyed seeing Dylan struggle with his predicament, and Dylan likewise. Josh might not want to admit it, but just watching Dylan struggle coping with his growing erection was quite a turn-on. Same for Dylan watching Josh attempt to cope with the situation at hand. Does this mean that Josh and Dylan are actually two closeted gay guys? Well, maybe it is best for now to not to even attempt to answer that. Except maybe I should say that there are probably far more guys who would be interested in being part of a situation Josh and Dylan gpt themselves into than there are guys who claim to be gay. If being straight or gay is not a 0-1 either-or kind of thing, but rather a 0-5 continuum, then maybe Dylan and Josh can claim to be somewhere in the middle of the scale. But wait, as a practical matter, is there ANY guy out there who would not like to be either Dylan or Josh in such a situation if he could do so without somehow getting “labeled” as “being gay” in so doing? A most interesting question to be sure. What I am hinting at is that the vast majority of guys if not all might be interested in changing places with Dylan or Josh if the opportunity presented itself, no strings or sexual orientation labeling baggage attached. This is deep stuff for each guy to think about, really deep, complicated stuff at the core of who each of them is as a person and as a human being.

But, for now, back to the presents Dylan and Josh bought for each other. Neither Dylan nor Josh would be in the mindset they were in had they both not thought that their shopping would lead to some new “situations” to uncover and to struggle with. But snug-fitting running tights and what amounts to compression shorts masquerading as underwear are both a little different from swim briefs of various sizes. Each of the items provides a fit and feel that is unique. The running tights are most interesting given how they fit really snug through the calf and ankle; the shorts fit really snug in the thigh area. Neither of these areas would not be considered sexually “active” pars of a guy’s body, or would they? Something “drew” Dylan and Josh to these items and to the conclusion that they might be “sexually active” Not in the way the really tight-fitting swim briefs were, but active nonetheless. What happens next is entirely up to Dylan and Josh. There is some reason why even Walmart carries this stuff, even though Walmart may not fully understand what is going on. Hey, if guys are somehow buying it, then Walmart should be selling it!

A lot of “goofy stuff” is going on right now. More swim teams are back to wearing briefs at least the top swimmers are. Walmart is selling underwear that looks more like compression gear than underwear. Loose-fitting boxer shorts are. apparently losing favor with guys, and Walmart and other places that do not specialize in sports gear are selling running tights. Jeans for men contain Spandex® and are nearly skin-tight. SOMETHING is going on relative to only a few years ago for sure, but what?

To be continued…

sebbie 01-14-2018 01:09 PM

Already, it is starting to happen…
 
Given what Dylan and Josh have already been through, you wouldn’t necessarily think that these latest items (gifts) that Josh and Dylan are exchanging would be any big deal at all. Think back on all the stuff that Dylan and Josh have been through already and the various situations each has found himself in already. The straps, the cups, the super-snug wrestling singlets, the thong underwear, not to mention the most recent “failed” attempts by each to try on swim briefs of decreasing sizes. Combine that with the incidents whereby each of them has watched the other guy simply jerk off in some type of gear to the point where he couldn’t “take” the pressure any more and “had” to shoot semen, and you start to realize that this has been a most interesting “journey” for both of them a journey that has taken each of them to “places” that as guys they had each never been before.

What kinds of places, anyway? On the surface this all appears to be rather tame stuff that Dylan and Josh are doing compared with the situations some college freshmen males get themselves into---too much alcohol, experimentation with drugs, sex with girls that might or perhaps might not be totally consensual, a pregnancy, an STD, perhaps serious or not-so serious. The list of possible ways that male college freshmen can get themselves into real trouble quickly is quite long indeed.

But, both Dylan and Josh are good kids, and neither of them are the kinds of individuals who are seeking to make a mess of their lives with a bad decision or two that might be made in only one or two reckless moments. Think about that as you read this. Dylan and Josh are both smart-and-capable students who are not prone to attempting to fulfill reckless urges at the drop of a hat. At first, that may seem like a silly thought, but it is not. Dylan and Josh remain who they each are, capable and somewhat shy, sensitive young men. I think it is important to recognize that even smart, capable, shy and sensitive young men still have “normal’ male urges, urges that simply cannot be ignored for significant periods of time. Pretending that guys like Dylan and Josh somehow “escaped” having such urges is a rather silly idea too.

Most guys know that male urges sometimes pop up in unexpected ways, places and times. I’m not sure exactly what was going on with Dylan and Josh over their winter break, but something really interesting was triggered when each of them was rather nonchalantly wandering through their respective local Walmart stores over the break. It is relatively easy to understand why each of them might be “interested” upon seeing some snug-fitting clothing items just hanging there on a clothing rack. At this point I think most of my readers realize that there is something going on in both of their brains that has “programmed” both of them to be “on the watch” for such items. Whatever that is, it is programmed way deep in the psyche. Not something that either of them would care to share with anyone (other than, perhaps, each other). Certainly not something a guy would share with his parents, siblings or most any other peer, male or female. So this gets to be complicated stuff to for a guy deal with, really complicated stuff. What makes this all most interesting is that both Dylan and Josh know enough about each other that each of them at least suspects that the other one would be interested too. I think all of my readers know exactly what I am attempting to communicate here.

For guys who share the “problem” that Dylan and Josh have, it is somehow reassuring to be at a point where there is (at least) one other person who you are comfortable sharing your problem with. Oddly, enough for guys, this other person is probably not going to be a person of the opposite sex, as in a female.

Why this is normally true gets into some complicated stuff as well. The short version is that there is nothing in the female psyche that works quite the way certain items of snug-fitting clothing work for many males. Soon I am into some really deep stuff about whether Josh and Dylan’s “behavior” in this regard is commonplace or relatively rare among young males as a group. Then I start asking myself if there are a lot of guys out there who deep down would like very much to be in the place and time where Dylan and Josh are, or few, if any.

Of course, the big elephant in the room is still the issue of where Dylan and Josh each fall on the scale depicting sexual orientation. Is their fascination with snug-fitting clothing along with seeming enjoyment of seeing each other masturbate to ejaculation simply an indicator that both Dylan and Josh are simply closeted gay guys who by accident ended up being roommates?

Right now, I do not know the answer to that question. Maybe if I keep writing chapters I will eventually find the answer. For now, let me say that it has taken both Dylan and Josh some courage to get to the place where they are right now. It is not every college freshman who would feel comfortable with the whole idea of buying his roommate such a personal gift, let alone a gift that each of them suspected might lead to a situation whereby each might get to watch the other jerk off in the new item.

For now, I will stop with all of this deep analysis and let my readers contemplate what the future for Dylan and Josh might hold. How would YOU, me reader, feel if YOU were the recipient of one of these gifts, and all that implies?

To be continued (of course)….


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