A suit and a video camera

[sebbie]

Lately, I have been watching a few videos of guys getting off in their suits. Well, more than a few (as in 20 or 30). Here are some conclusions.

First, the idea that a smooth Lycra blend or nylon suit as a comfortable and interesting way to get off is very well-known by guys, and correctly deemed very pleasant relative to most other methods. Since the guys I am watching are going solo, its tough to determine if they are straight or gay, but my basic conclusion is that the popularity of this method is happily being pursued by all.

MOST, tho not all, of the guys aim the camera at their groin area so as to not reveal their faces. A lot of the guys do not appear to have a camera operator, but merely set the camera up in a fixed position on a bed or in the bathroom or shower.

The techniques employed by most of the guys are pretty much the same, based on seeing a number different videos. Most guys like to position themselves either to the side or up and touch themselves indirectly at first, watching as the bulge in the groin area grows from the stimulation and the excitement of having a camera running in which being recorded in such a personal moment is part of the turn-on. Guys seem to be both somehow proud but perhaps also a bit embarrassed that others will see this on video when they ejaculate through their suits.

The videos are about equally divided between those in which the guys cum inside (through) their suits and those who conclude the session by pulling their penises out of the suits.

Videos vary a lot in time, from as short as 30 seconds to as long as 15 minutes or more. Only a few include another person.

My thoughts about all of this are the following.

Knowledge that solo sex is really fun in a slick-fitting, tight suit is widespread, and most guys have probably figured this out by the time they get into their teens. This method remains popular for solo activity for adult males, as indicated by the variety of men in the videos.

Most young adults (and younger) who own a suit have probably tried this and maybe frequently.

Since teen males have figured this all out, admitting ownership of a suit is an indirect way of saying that you have tried or perhaps regularly do this. A lot of young guys are uncomfortable with this, as then their peers will likely tease or even bully them about it. So, peers being aware that you own a suit has a down side in terms of the other messages being communicated. Its not that peers are unaware that that other guys are doing this assuming they own a suit.

Comments?

Sebbie

[SwimTeamSpeedo]

While I think there is a unique contingent of guys who find form fitting, tight suits arousing and enjoy them for activities other than swimming, such as sexual exploits, I don't agree with the broad inclusive statement of most guys. My empirical evidence is probably as scant as yours, based more on gut instinct and observation, but I think most guys who own and wear these types of suits do so for swimming only and that is it. Sebbie, from my swim team days and from my masters swim activity now, I am sure that a wide majority see the suit as a utility to swimming only. On both teams, most of the guys keep the limited number of suits they have at their locker. Further, many that I talk to openly state they would never wear their team attire anywhere else but at the pool or in a race. Except for the skimpiest of fashion oriented suits, the major market for brief suits is and always will be swimmers. Nothing wrong with the behavoir you describe, but those who find it their cup of tea are a niche segment, in my opinion.

[shaulis]

No good can come from attributing the actions of a small group to that of the larger speedo wearing community.

[Torchwatch]

I agree with shaulis, I would encourage others but not expect anyone to follow my example. I wear different brief swimwear to various places for a variety of reasons, and would not like to be defined, labelled or restricted.

[Byron]

To misquote from a character in an old tv. sit. com.
show: "I too am unanimous in that opinion".

[skinnykid]

Couple of weeks ago, I was changing into my swimwear to swim laps and I actually caught someone video taping me. Once we made eye contact, that guy just walked away. I felt kinda violated.

[Torchwatch]

A changing area is a private space, filming you in it is a breach of your privacy.
It is your choice to take intimate photos and videos of your own body should you choose to, but no one has the right to make or use such images without your permission.
Check whether cameras are permitted to be used in the pool area without permission of the operator, and complain anyway. This person will do it to someone else.
Your sexuality, or choice of swimwear is not an issue and you should not allow anyone to blackmail you into silence over it.

[SwimTeamSpeedo]

I agree. When I was swimming on the college team, at many meets we'd see the same dude show up with a really powerful zoom lens and take pictures. He frequently was not aiming at the action in the pool, but at random guys standing around the pool. He was not part of the media and no one was related to him. Now, it could have been perfectly innocent, but we all speculated that he was up to no good. However, we were in swimsuits, appropriately clothed for the context. Getting photographed at a swim meet is not out of the ordinary. Getting photographed when you are at a pool or beach without permission is inappropriate. Going into a locker or changing area to photo or video is crossing a big line. There is a huge difference between enjoying the look of a guy or gal in swimwear, and being a total pervert. If you see him again, I'd complain immediately. The scary thing is if he is that bold, where does he draw the line?

[sebbie]

Cameras are everywhere inside telephone, mini-pads etc. To asume that this can somehow be policed is so much wishful thinking.(ask Prince Harry about this). Anywhere you go where others see you could result in your photo being taken.

[Byron]

Well, you invited comments Sebbie and you got some.

Your observation of a harmless little fetish could be expressed in a couple of sentences but the extensive psychobabble and OTT generalisations which follow have unsurprisingly provoked some disagreement.

To expect, indeed demand, some private space around onesself - even in an otherwise public environment - is perfectly reasonable.
There wouldn't be any wishful thinking on my part if a guy in a public convenience leaned over me at a urinal with camera in hand - there would be a simple punch in the face (or, better still, pee in his cellphone to spoil his pleasure).

[shaulis]

People can expect to see cameras in public areas especially since the last couple of years but we shouldn't expect to have our privacy invaded at the pool, gym or anywhere for that matter. The violators can be charged and do some jail time.

[SwimTeamSpeedo]

Anywhere you go where others see you could result in your photo being taken.

Could versus should. Big difference.

[sebbie]

Of course, cameras that can take long-lens photos are getting extremely cheap and lightweight. As Megapixels increase, someone taking a general photo of a swim meet could easily blow up the section showing a guy in a Speedo to fill the frame and be sharp, and post the photo to the Internet. I seriously doubt that this could ever be deemed somehow illegal in any way shape or form any more than the celebrity photographers do anything illegal selling photos of celebs thdey have snapped long lens or not.

Unless you ban cameras entirely at pools and swim meets (which would be all but impossible to do unless you also banned devices containing cameras such as phones etc), I think a better strategy would be to simply assume that if you are in any place where others are around there is a possibility that your photo could be taken. I suspect some clothing retailers even have cameras in changing rooms as a method of identifying shoplifters, but they obviously are not going to make that public. Further, if you are uncomfortable being seen in a photo in a brief-style suit, why should you be any more comfortable just being seen by the public wearing the suit? This makes no sense to me at all.

Never mind the photography that goes on in and around the security areas at airports.

But, lets get back to the central theme of this thread which involves guys photographing themselves while enjoying themselves in their suits, and then posting the photos or movies.

Sebbie

[SwimTeamSpeedo]

Sebbie, I think you missed the point. No one is saying photos at swim meets are wrong (re-read my earlier post more closely). No one is saying you should not be photographed in a swimsuit, although arguably it would be more courteous to ask first. Everyone, except you, is saying it is wrong to take pictures in a changing room or photo anyone changing. I don't mind a swimsuit picture, but naked in the process of changing is another issue.

STS

[Byron]

I am afraid you have become hoist by your own petard Sebbie.

Had you stuck to a brief (pun intended) observation of the ectasy enjoyed by those who climax (either as practitioners or observers of what has been recorded) within the confines of a smooth and silky fabric, all would be well.
However, it is your frequent tendency to pursue your posts into long pseudo-psychoanalytic studies with some pretty outrageous and inaccurate conclusions that evokes the sort of responses you have seen.

Read Torchwatch as well as STS - he rightly objects to a theory which automatically labels him as a participant in the practice as a purchaser of a garment which happens to be a speedo.

I could go on (and on) but am aware of the mote and beam sermon from the Book of Matthew.

[heyallwatup]

hello i am new here and looking for anyone that might to get rid of there old speedos, so if you know of someone would you let me or them to pm on here thanks


I agree with shaulis, I would encourage others but not expect anyone to follow my example. I wear different brief swimwear to various places for a variety of reasons, and would not like to be defined, labelled or restricted.

[Byron]

Just what the quotation of Torchwatch's serious point on another topic has to do with your need for freebies I do not understand.
As a new member your posts have appeared in other forums and as you seem to be so desperate to spread the word do you have special personal circumstances to explain your requests ?

[heyallwatup]

so i give up and withdraw my request sorry for the bother



Just what the quotation of Torchwatch's serious point on another topic has to do with your need for freebies I do not understand.
As a new member your posts have appeared in other forums and as you seem to be so desperate to spread the word do you have special personal circumstances to explain your requests ?

[MicroRon]

I am afraid you have become hoist by your own petard Sebbie.

Had you stuck to a brief (pun intended) observation of the ectasy enjoyed by those who climax (either as practitioners or observers of what has been recorded) within the confines of a smooth and silky fabric, ~ ~ ~

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Hey Sebbie...At least this man sees some value in the exploration of the eroticism of wearing suits seemingly also designed for that natural of all male instincts... auto eroticism! ~ ~ ~
As a speedo and thong wearer from my youth ~ ~ ~ I have always worn speedos style suits for swimming. I also confess that I also find wearing them 'pleasurable'... with the greatest sensual thrill came from opening a package of new gear and trying it on as soon as possible. Yes... and I'm an old masturbator from way back!

[Byron]

.......by the logic path of this discussion - should your post begin "Hey Byron"?

[California Dolphin]

The legal issue can be simply stated as follows:

If a person is in a location where there's a "Reasonable Expectation Of Privacy", then secretely making audio or video recordings is strictly illegal.

Don't bring cameras or other recording devices into a locker room or any other location or you might wind up getting charged with invasion of privacy.

[Byron]

Precisely - and instead of an inappropriate allusion to Harry cavorting in Las Vegas we should take account of Kate when topless with Wills on the terrace of their house during their private holiday in the south of France.
The French Court rightly upheld the subsequent complaint against the paps, out again
with their telephoto lenses needless to say.