Female attitudes, or lack of, about speedos

[SpeedosAllSummer]

I know this was covered, to some degree, already. But, here's my take. In my opinion, if you take a female in form fitting jeans and a tucked in shirt, and put her in a bikini, the only major difference is seeing more skin. The overall shape remains the same, just more defined. Take a guy in pants and a tucked in shirt, and the crotch area is generally flat, and non descript. Put him in speedos and suddenly you not only see a clear bulge, but you see definite outlines of that area that are not usually seen. So, it is my "opinion" that women in bikinis is not the same as guys in speedos. So, for me, the fact that guys wear these tiny, revealing speedos on even high school and college swim teams, says that females...especially at that age of raging hormones, are basically oblivious to seeing guys in something so revealing. So, on one hand, it's a thrill to wear speedos, but on the other, on some level its very apparent to me that we can basically be in tiny, revealing underwear in front of females and they just don't care. In other words, a massive double standard exists where females can wear skimpy bikinis and even the cleanest cut of guys notices, but guys can wear what is basically lycra bikini underwear, and the very fact that it's allowed in high schools and colleges says it's no big deal because it's obviously not at all sexual to women.
Just look at any swim team photos, and you see guys parading around in utterly revealing swimsuits in front of female timekeepers, teammates and those in the bleachers. I guess I'm just always amazed that it's not considered more sexual than it is.....especially at ages where hormones are supposedly raging. I remember talking about speedos with a friend of mine in college (she was 18, and a swimmer), and she said "eh, no big deal". So, first I became convinced that females are indifferent to guys wearing something as revealing as speedos. But then come the other "attitudes". Indifference is the biggest. But beyond that, there are those females who find speedos gross, or hysterically funny. A girl (swimmer, then 18) I actually dated in college once confessed, when I steered the conversation around guys wearing speedos, that she and her female teammates secretly laughed at the guys on their team wearing them, no matter how in shape they were. I already figured she was in the "indifferent" category, but this shocked me. Switch channels to a YM magazine that came across my radar at some point, featuring an article on the old movie, Swimfan. The author was female. To paraphrase, at one point she wrote, "...it was the one day of filming where guys weren't in their speedos (don't get grossed out, girls, it's for their roles)". Here an author felt she had to apologize for even mentioning speedos to a young female audience. And I could give dozens of examples of comments like this, from females, be they from conversations I overheard, comments I've seen online, and comments I've read in articles. And, as "sort" of an aside, did you ever notice that when you see an accidental groin hit on any video clips comedy show, watch the females in the background. Even if the female is the one who accidentally hit a ball (or whatever) to a guy's groin, it's always an immense cause for an abrupt roar of laughter from them when it happens. Some say it's a reaction of embarrassment. But, in the context of their attitudes on speedos, and given that these clips include women of all ages...who, no matter how hard the guy got it, cover their mouths with uncontrollable laughter, I'm convinced they also find our sexuality funny.
I could write a book on this, but it is my opinion that women are largely oblivious to even the cutest, most in shape guys in speedos (specifically oblivious to the bulge), and those who are not oblivious are disgusted by speedos, or think they are just the funniest thing , ever. All of my opinions are predicated on the assumption that we're talking about in shape guys, mostly on teams, and not arrogant, "hey baby" types.
They say women just aren't as visual. I think that's very unfortunate. I could explain my point with far more examples, and such. But I'll quit, here.

[sebbie]

I wrote a long paper on this subject some years back. I think you shoulld be able to read it by following the link below
https://web.archive.org/web/20190511154348/http://www.sebringsil.com/speedowear.htm

[Jack Lewis]

This could very easily go off-topic pretty rapidly but I'll try to avoid digressing! This is something I've read a lot about over the years. The first point is - if anyone thinks they've figured out how women are wired they're very much mistaken - that's impossible. Even women don't know that! The second is this - not all women who go to watch male strippers are all sitting there damp. Their reasons for going are multifold - some see it as a form of inflicting humiliation on the stripper (even if he interprets it as as an act of worship and ego massage), some go to show their peers that they're "in with the crowd" (how many solo women go to the shows?), and some go because they are genuinely turned on (though in my experience the more highly-sexed a women is the harder she is to live with). I think these are the smaller subset of all women, which is why most women's reaction to skimpy swimwear on guys is either negative or neutral. We men are simple creatures - we have an almost universal view of what the ideal women looks like, what we would do with her if we had the chance, etc. But in this regard, and I'm sorry to say this, but collectively-speaking women are all over the place. Very few are cock-hungry whores, good cooks and scintillating company. Perhaps that's a good thing as it keeps life interesting!

[sebbie]

great points!

[mrb1]

In my experience, most women at the beach like to look at physically fit men in bikinis. Unlike men, most women try to be sneaky about taking a peek at the opposite sex. However, I have seen some women just blatantly stare at my crotch.

[Schoolspeedo]

I think I've said this before somewhere on this forum; my wife and ex don't like my speedo, skimpy bikini skin suits. Both have the 'Peter Stringfellow' effect. Undetered I continue to wear my skimpy suits to my local university pool where no one seems to care. I've tried to modify the brevity by trying the Aussie 'Budgy Smuggler' make along with 'Oddballs' swimmers but both are too wide which is a shame as they have some amazing prints. For now I'll stick with my Kiniki 'Andre' style which I find skimpy enough to be acceptable, not by my wife unfortunately, and comfortable. To be honest I'm past caring. I'm going to take up wild swimming though will start will full wet suit with my kiniki beneath though. Of course I'll be forced to strip off on the beach or riverside to get changed and if my bikini is on show, oh dear. Having observed that the majority of wild swimmers seem to be women, then it will be interesting.

[Glenda]

Way back in 1975 the Fall/Winter Sears Catalog, page 602. It showed two male models standing side by side, one of which was in briefs and the other in boxers. It wasn't the briefs that had an inappropriate clothing issue. I remember it was a conversational topic with women then. Even though what looked like a penis poking out was just a publication smudge.

https://groovyhistory.com/the-great-sears-catalog-controversy-of-1975

[Aberman]

I think I've said this before somewhere on this forum; my wife and ex don't like my speedo, skimpy bikini skin suits. Both have the 'Peter Stringfellow' effect. Undetered I continue to wear my skimpy suits to my local university pool where no one seems to care. I've tried to modify the brevity by trying the Aussie 'Budgy Smuggler' make along with 'Oddballs' swimmers but both are too wide which is a shame as they have some amazing prints. For now I'll stick with my Kiniki 'Andre' style which I find skimpy enough to be acceptable, not by my wife unfortunately, and comfortable. To be honest I'm past caring. I'm going to take up wild swimming though will start will full wet suit with my kiniki beneath though. Of course I'll be forced to strip off on the beach or riverside to get changed and if my bikini is on show, oh dear. Having observed that the majority of wild swimmers seem to be women, then it will be interesting.
This has been my experience too unfortunately …. They have been tolerated but no more but in my latest relationship actively discouraged . There are always exceptions but I think in the main women prefer their men to be mainstream . That’s not to say they won’t like inwardly a really attractive stranger walking past in a brief speedo . But I think when it comes to “their” men they prefer the norm . In my pool there are often girls in the skimpiest brief swimwear but the guys still are in their board shorts . Now that’s not to say that this will stop me wearing my briefish stuff to the pool . Nothing outlandish these days to the uk pool and a bit briefer abroad .

[Torchwatch]

There appears to be an attitude amongst women to get the best looking and fittest man available and then keep him by fattening him up and making him appear unattractive to other women. A husband who swims in speedos is going to attract unmarried women, if the wife can't stop him from swimming she can at least force him to wear hideous baggy shorts with a cheap floral print design and offer him an extra slice of pie when he gets home.
Worse still a husband who is no longer getting it at home may become bi curious and earn the attention of other men. Such a husband will be forced to stay in at home, abstain from all sport and fitness activity and to wear only the most boring practical underwear.

[Aberman]

There appears to be an attitude amongst women to get the best looking and fittest man available and then keep him by fattening him up and making him appear unattractive to other women. A husband who swims in speedos is going to attract unmarried women, if the wife can't stop him from swimming she can at least force him to wear hideous baggy shorts with a cheap floral print design and offer him an extra slice of pie when he gets home.
Worse still a husband who is no longer getting it at home may become bi curious and earn the attention of other men. Such a husband will be forced to stay in at home, abstain from all sport and fitness activity and to wear only the most boring practical underwear.
Well I think it’s much simpler than that …. In general they just don’t like ‘em 😊

[mark]

my wife loves me in speedos, thongs and tiny pouch swimwear. i have worn kiniki swim briefs in jamaica at a family resort, yes i had looks and was one of only 3 guys in speedos but i didnt care and she likes the fact i dont walk around in dork shorts, also every time we stay at hedonism 2 resort in jamaica i wear desmmit thongs around the resort with no problems at all. we even wore matching yellow thongs and got compliments.

[Fairfax]

There are always exceptions but I think in the main women prefer their men to be mainstream .[/QUOTE]


That is close to my view on both male and female attitudes to swim briefs.
They simply regard a man exposing his upper thighs and especially the glutes in a public place as immodest.
They don't care how much you like wearing them its simply not appropriate in their mind. Not as bad as swimming naked but similar in concept.
One lady friend once remarked that its like a girl going topless.

[Aberman]

my wife loves me in speedos, thongs and tiny pouch swimwear. i have worn kiniki swim briefs in jamaica at a family resort, yes i had looks and was one of only 3 guys in speedos but i didnt care and she likes the fact i dont walk around in dork shorts, also every time we stay at hedonism 2 resort in jamaica i wear desmmit thongs around the resort with no problems at all. we even wore matching yellow thongs and got compliments.

So good to hear that you get approval ! I used to get giggly approval in my main relationship mixed with a bit of tolerance , but I always felt uncomfortable ordering loads of stuff as probably the fetishism was disapproved of rather than the thong .
Then one very liberal relationship where it was Ok .
In my present relationship , my GF wears thongs for me but she does not like me in them . That is fair enough and I do not want to rock the boat too much . Anyway I get plenty of solo thong wearing time so it is ok , but I do admit I would prefer to start bed time in a thong but it is not going to happen !

[Minimalist75]

So good to hear that you get approval ! I used to get giggly approval in my main relationship mixed with a bit of tolerance , but I always felt uncomfortable ordering loads of stuff as probably the fetishism was disapproved of rather than the thong .
Then one very liberal relationship where it was Ok .
In my present relationship , my GF wears thongs for me but she does not like me in them . That is fair enough and I do not want to rock the boat too much . Anyway I get plenty of solo thong wearing time so it is ok , but I do admit I would prefer to start bed time in a thong but it is not going to happen !
Starting bed time in nothing is best!

[speedonutt]

No I think are either fake gay men or only driven by whatever that thing she has to get into her a a baby.
I grew up in late 70's & 80's like when Battle of The Network Stars had the days hottest tv guys in those 70s suits when dry, pulled up too high, a full thin full clinging outline of what was there. They were beautiful and apart from some not so young and fit were clearly uncomfortable, all the TV Studs were proud of their wet and dry penis on full sisplY.
Marc Singer has a too small in the good way regular cut speedo, while on the grass watching the dunk tank.
He was chosen, he had the hottest speedo with everything on full display, the crowd geered so he didn't let him put shotrts over ( he was teasing & wasn't gonna coverup). I was very young the golden sticky era of Celebrities on TV casually showing off.

Nobody (but Luke Evans, will ever wear a speedo - if you haven't seen Luke Evans in tons of different beaches and speedos .... You will scream God Is So Unfair to have such a ndsom truly sexually man (gay) those allover looks and the rest of us are just guys. He also sings as a hobby, and even had a sexy singing voice.

[speedonutt]

Honestly I don't care if wem don't like them. This is one situation they should stay home in the kitchen and let they men swim at pools with speedos on.

[Bede735]

Maybe they don't like it because they think men are wearing the same type of outfits as them. Basically men identifying as women. In that case, they are Terfs!

[need4speedo]

Maybe they don't like it because they think men are wearing the same type of outfits as them. Basically men identifying as women. In that case, they are Terfs!

I think a lot of women are jealous of men who can pull off a speedo where they can't pull off a bikini, especially wives or girlfriends of men who want to wear a speedo at the beach.

[SoCal2023]

I've heard several theories over the years.

One is that men are more visual and are attracted to a woman's appearance whereas women are more attracted to a man that can provide (ie wealth). The first part is evidenced by the number of magazines depicting female nudity versus the number of magazines depicting male nudity.

Another view is more tailored to the issue of men wearing speedos. I've heard more than once that some women (most?) believe that men in speedos are not attractive because they (the women) prefer that men "leave something to their imagination" when it comes to men's beach attire.

Fortunately, my significant other likes (or silently tolerates) my choice of swimwear. Although I do think she prefers the square cut suits over the thongs.

Just my .02.

[sebbie]

Generally, men do not complain if women wear garments which reveal that there are outlines of parts specific to the anatomy of a female. In fact, most men probably like that.

The situation seems to be different for some females, however, particularly if their male partner wants to wear something which reveals that the male she thinks is her would show any covered bulges specific to the male anatomy. After all, her guy is "taken" and why would he set up a situation that might prove attractive to another "competing" female.

So, guys wearing Speedos for her tend to fall into two categories. Either the guy is straight but single and trying to attract a female partner by showing off his body and providing an indication of how well endowed he is, or he is gay and in search of a male partner interested in a showing off his endowments in search of a gay relationship.

Given that, usually a female who is attached in a relationship with a male, would rather the male dresses conservatively without revealing even the outline of a bulge. For her, Speedos are OK but not for my guy to wear in public. This, for a lot of females there is nothing wrong with a guy wearing a Speedo except for "her" guy doing so in public, as his intensions regarding others could be misinterpreted.

[Bede735]

My wife is fine with me wearing speedos, but I think it comes with 'conditions'. She wouldn't be happy with me walking about on a beach just wearing that, or sitting around a crowded hotel pool in it. But as long as I wear it just for swimming, then that's okay.

[Schoolspeedo]

I've started 'wild' swimming and bought a few 'myoddballs' men's swim briefs to wear. I've got a size smaller and taken out the lining which does away with that sag in the water and also gives a nicer bulge. My wife is OK with them and I even bought some bright coloured ones just to stick a finger up at speedo haters. The briefs stand out also as they have a slogan across the back; "oddballs, covering your tackle". Also a serious note to the brand as they donate a portion of sales to testicular Cancer charity. A friend who is also a keen wild swimmer invited us out with her for a swim but said to me ' no speedos!' So I sent her a photo of me wearing a large swimmers coat, open, with a pink speedo showing. She just sent back an emoji of laughing face. Can't wait to actually be swimming with her wearing that brief. I'll make sure I have as obvious a bulge as I can!