Advice For My Son

[SpeedoMom]

Hi there! I'm a single mom, aged 38. My son just turned 18 and graduates from high school this year. I've been a lover of swim briefs since I first started to notice boys.

I've never felt it necessary for toddlers to wear swimsuits, by parents didn't either, so my son was a naked swimmer until about age 5. When he was old enough to need a swimsuit, I got him a cute little brief. Once he started to pick his own clothes, however, he promptly switched to shorts and has worn them since.

We're planning a graduation trip to Europe this summer. One evening at dinner while we were talking about the trip he asked if he'd need to wear one of those "euro bikinis" while we're travelling. I told him that I'm sure it would be fine for him to wear his regular trunks.

I didn't think about it again until a couple of weeks later. We were in a sporting goods store. I went off to do my shopping while he wandered around. When I was done, I found him cautiously looking at a rack of swim briefs. I asked if he needed a new swimsuit, but he said no and was clearly embarrassed about being caught.

A couple of nights ago I was browsing the internet. I typed in an "s" and the address bar suggested swimoutlet.com. I checked the history, and it seems like he'd been looking at swim briefs on the site.

I think he wants to try wearing a swim brief. I'm happy to get him one, but not sure how to bring up the subject. Has anyone had a similar experience? Any suggestions?

[sebbie]

Suggest that he might want to get himself a swim brief to wear mostly as a liner under his shorts. A lot of the shorts being sold have no liner at all. Then, on vacation, if he gets into a situation where he thinks he would feel comfortable wearing just the brief, he can simply slip off the shorts at poolside and he is ready to go. If that does not happen, that is fine too! Part of this depends on what the other guys are wearing at the various locations he will be at on vacation. If, at a pool, he is the only one wearing shorts and all the other guys are wearing briefs, that is not a neat situation to be in, either. What guys wear for swimming in large measure depends on what they see the other guys are wearing.

[PSDave]

He is 18, an adult, a man. Let him make up his own mind and buy his own clothes. He is not a little boy anymore so Mommy shouldn't be picking out his clothes. Unties the apron strings and let him be a man with his own mind.

[jackk78]

I think he wants to try wearing a swim brief. I'm happy to get him one, but not sure how to bring up the subject. Has anyone had a similar experience? Any suggestions?

My mom bought me my first swim brief when I was about your son's age (http://www.mensswimsuitboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4312&postcount=40), and I'm glad she did.

You mentioned he wore them when he was younger. Maybe pull out some old albums together, come across some pics of him in the swim brief, and see how things go?

[Torchwatch]

Your son is well on the way to buying his own swim briefs but would be too embarrassed to take you to the store's fitting room to check the fit. Casually (maybe after dinner) offer him $20 for new swimwear for the trip and suggest he gets something he really likes, don't attempt to suggest he gets a brief or men's bikini style and don't ever ask him to show you what he has bought, leave all that up to him.
Whilst on your trip together just go to the beach with him, don't mention what he may or may not be wearing, the more you tell him you want to see him in briefs the more shy and resistant he will be about it.
Finally when you are on the beach both stripped down to your skimpy swimwear act cool, go for a swim, lie around for a while, have lunch. Don't pull out the camera until he has forgotten what he is wearing and is comfortable in his swim briefs, get him to take a few shots of you first and then see if he is happy for you to point the camera at him.

[sunbuff]

A subject that often comes up here on the internet is American's unpreparedness for European public pools. Many, especially in France and Belgium REQUIRE swim briefs for men. Usually there are vending machines there to purchase them; but the UK, France, Germany and Italy all have different sizing schemes.

I can't say this from experience although I've been to Europe seven times, (if I go in the water there, I usually seek out a nudist venue) but I do know that the stores there have about 5 times as many men's briefs as are available here. We were next door to a public pool in Oslo, and I couldn't help but notice that I've never seen that many young guys in briefs anywhere before.

Perhaps he should purchase a pair of briefs here that fit him, just to keep his options open.

sunbuff

[sebbie]

I dunno, PSDave, if my mom had told me she thought I might want to buy myself a pair of swim briefs when I was 18, I would have done cartwheels on the spot!

[PSDave]

By time I was 16 I was shopping for my own clothes. I was working and making my own money and the last thing I would have wanted is for my mom along to help me shop - especially for swim briefs. I thought teens were more independent now and picked their own clothes.

[SpeedoMom]

Thanks for the replies. :)

My son buys most of this own clothes, but he (thankfully) doesn't mind shopping with me from time to time.

[dm106]

I don't think there's anything wrong if you buy him a swim brief and give it to him - perhaps surprise him and leave it in the bag on his bed - don't say anything, just leave it there for him to discover. He probably will want to have the opportunity to try it on in private and get used to wearing one again.

[sebbie]

Speedomom Keep us posted on how this all goes. If he doesnt want to wear the brief as swimwear, he still has a great liner for shorts.

In a hotel pool setting, wearing a swim brief under cotton shorts works very well, as you wear the cotton shorts over the brief and a tee shirt when wandering through halls, elevators and the public lobby area. Then when you get to the pool just slip out of the shorts and tee shirt and pop into the pool in only the swim brief. The shorts, tee and and a towel stay on a lounge chair pool side. Then when you get out of the pool, you lay on the lounge chair for a few minutes until the briefs are dry, and they dry quickly. Then slip on the still-dry shorts and wander back through the hotel lobby, elevator and halls to your room.

Same thing at public hot tubs.

To me, having a pair of swim briefs to wear under shorts is an essential item for any hotel stay where there are pool or hot tub facilities, and I can't imagine a vacation where this would not often be the case. Also, the shorts worn over do not need to be specifically made for swimming this way. If you want to get fancy, you can probably find shorts and swim briefs that coordinate design and color-wise. A great gift would be a colorful tee, a pair of cotton shorts, and a swim brief that all coordinate and look good together!

(The timid could wear jammers instead of a brief under the cotton shorts, too. Some guys like the look of the compression jammers showing a couple inches below the shorts, but they have been watching a lot of basketball where many players think that look is way cool! If I were 18 again I would own both the brief and the jammers, probably)

Sebbie

[tightjeans]

Why do I think this post was started my a Troll? Because there have been no responses that's why.

[sebbie]

Speedomom responded yesterday afternoon

[PSDave]

Mom glad to hear he is independent and shops on his own. There is nothing wrong with Mom shopping with her son as long as she isn't picking out.
i still shop with my mom and it is fun - especially when it is her credit card.

[SpeedoMom]

It's interesting to see the different directions in which boys and girls' suits go as they get older. My best friend and her husband have a daughter the same age as my son. We regularly have Sunday dinner at their house and frequently end the night with a dip in their hot tub.

When the kids started wearing swimsuits, my son was in a brief and their daughter wore a one piece suit. My son switched to shorts and then boardshorts. Their daughter eventually started wearing tankinis, then bikinis, and these days her swimsuit is practically a thong. He got more conservative as she got more, well, naked. ;)

I had coffee with my friend and mentioned my son's Speedo interest. She started laughing and told me she had a confession. Her husband is a Speedo lover! We've known each other since our kids were babies, and somehow I never knew. I almost didn't believe her, but she pulled up a vacation picture on her phone and there he was wearing only a Speedo. He only wears them in private. My friend has always been a bit embarrassed by them, so he keeps them hidden.

We have dinner plans next Sunday, so I asked if she thought he could wear them while we're there. She said she'd ask. I got a text from her later that said: "Speedo Sunday is on!"

[sebbie]

My bet is that is that if your son sees another guy wearing a speedo, he will soon be wearing one too. This is all about seeing what the other guys are wearing and doing. Mention what is up in this regard to your son before Sunday and he may want to do some shopping before then. He can do the boardshorts over the speedo technique and then remove the boardshorts as he gets into the tub.

[SpeedoMom]

He's fairly comfortable around me and (briefly) managed to be free with my sister's family too, which is why I think he might be open to the idea of wearing a swim brief in public. Like most boys, he grew more modest when he hit puberty. He'd always hide his body at home, but, since he was a minor and his dad wasn't around, I'd accompany my son to the doctor. His general practitioner and dermatologist both had him undress completely, so I'd get the occasional look at him nude growing up.

Last summer, my sister and her husband invited us to spend a week at the lakeside cabin they'd purchased a few months earlier. She has two boys, 5 and 7, and a 3 year old girl. Before we went up, she warned me that her husband and the kids had taken to swimming nude. She'd make sure her husband covered up while we were there, but couldn't make any promises for the kids. I told her it would be fine.

When we got there, we found that the kids were practically nudists. My son, of course, wore his shorts. They wanted to know why their dad was dressed, but he just told them he felt like doing something different. They were persistent in their questions, however. My son and I were sharing a room with two twin beds. The first night, before we went to bed, I asked if he'd mind his uncle swimming nude, since that's what they prefer. He said he didn't care.

At breakfast the next morning, I told my sister that her husband was free to dress (or not!) as he wished. He went swimming nude that day and for the rest of our visit.

The following day, my son slept in. I came in to wake him up and tidied up a bit. Without thinking about it, I tossed a pair of underwear that was next to his bed into our laundry. He was awake, but still lying in bed, so I asked if everything was okay. He said yes, but confessed that he'd been sleeping naked. He'd been intending to slip on the underwear I'd thrown in the laundry. I laughed, and left to give him some privacy.

That night after we got ready for bed, he was a bit awkward. He was probably remembering the encounter from that morning. I sleep nude at home, so I told him. Then I asked if he'd mind me sleeping nude, since he'd already broken the ice. He said okay. I undressed and slipped under the covers. My son waited a moment, then dropped his briefs and quickly got into bed. I turned out the light and we went to sleep.

So it went. Each night we'd undress and each night we'd linger for just a bit longer before getting into bed. One morning towards the end of our trip, I'd finished my shower. I wrapped my towel around my body and went to wake him up. I'm not sure what compelled me, but I figured what the hell, took off the towel, and wrapped it around my head. When he woke up he was surprised, but not offended, at seeing my body. I told him it was his turn in the shower, then went back into the bathroom to finish getting ready.

He followed shortly after and hurriedly got in the shower. When he was done, he reached outside and grabbed a towel. He pulled the curtain aside and was wrapped in the towel. My son used the sink next to mine, occasionally stealing glances at me. I thought perhaps I'd gone too far, but almost to answer my fears he casually let his towel drop and didn't pick it up. We finished getting ready and went out to join the others for breakfast.

It was the second to last night at the cabin. I undressed as soon as we got to our room and my son did too. Before I turned out the light, I told him that I was sure he was welcome to join the others and swim nude if he preferred. He said he'd think about it. The next morning, he didn't need any encouragement to get out of bed and we got ready together again. After breakfast, my son and I went for a walk. When we got back, the others were down by the lake.

We went inside to change into our swimming clothes. After we'd undressed, but before my son had pulled on his shorts, I reminded him that he was welcome to go without a swimsuit. I'd asked my sister earlier, and she'd given her blessing. He seemed to be considering it. To push him over the edge I added that I was thinking about going nude too and we could do it together. This did it.

I led the way down to the lake. My brother-in-law and the kids were in the water. My sister was watching them from the shore. She turned and saw us when we got close. My son looked nervous, so I suggested he get into the water. I joined my sister on the shore and explained everything. Then I went to swim with the others.

Eventually we tired and came up onto the shore. I was glad to see my son had relaxed completely. My sister was wearing a bikini, but on seeing the rest us nude decided to join the fun. We spent the rest of the afternoon swimming and lounging until it was time to go inside for dinner. My son seemed disappointed when it was time to get dressed.

We had to leave the next morning. I thought my son might continue to be more open with his body at home, but went back to his old ways. It was nearing the end of summer, and he had a dermatologist appointment scheduled. I was due to see her as well, so I scheduled an appointment for myself at the same time.

When the assistant took us back, she asked if my son wanted to be seen first, so he could wait outside during my exam. I told her it was okay for us to be seen together. She instructed us both to get undressed and left some gowns on the counter. My son was a little nervous, but we both took off our clothes. I picked up the gown and said we probably didn't need them. He looked a little worried, but nodded.

The doctor came in to see us. She was a little surprised at first to find us both naked, but finished our examinations without incident.

Having opened the door again, I asked my son during the ride home if he'd be okay with my being naked occasionally at home. He said okay.

School started a week later. I'd showered before he woke up. Thinking back to our experience at the cabin, I wrapped a towel around my head and went to his room to wake him up. The next morning I did the same thing and even started coming to breakfast every once in a while similarly clad.

He remained modest until one day I was picking up laundry. He was in his room wrapped in a towel. Before I left, he stopped me and handed me the towel to wash. I gave him a big smile and then left.

Since then, he's been a little more comfortable around me. It's not like we're nudists, but we don't bother to hide.

Sorry for the length, but hopefully you enjoyed learning more about our situation.

[dm106]

Just wondering if you got him one and maybe just left it in his room without talking about it?

[California Dolphin]

My advice is for the kid's father to wear a speedo for swimming or short shorts for running.

An example of "Leading by example". :D

[SpeedoMom]

I mentioned very casually to my son that he should expect to see our friend in a swim brief on Sunday. He seemed unfazed by this and we didn't discuss it further.

After breakfast this morning, I needed to run a few errands and asked my son if he'd like to tag along. He had nothing else planned, so decided to come. My workout bathing suit is getting a bit worn, so I stopped by the swim shop to get a replacement. He wandered around while I tried on a few swimsuits.

After deciding on one, I found my son in the men's section hovering near the swim briefs. Like I had previously, I suggested he try one on. I figured he'd say no, but instead he said okay. He took a plain navy brief off the rack. I waited outside the dressing room while he tried on the swimsuit.

A few minutes had gone by, so I knocked on the door and asked how it was going. He seemed unsure, so I asked if I could come in and take a look. He opened the door, and I went into the dressing room.

The brief looked good, but it was clearly too loose. I told him I'd find a smaller size, and went outside. The store was well stocked, and had one I figured would fit. He took the new brief and closed the door. This time when he let me in to look, it fit properly.

I took the swimsuits up to check out while my son got dressed. Hopefully he'll decide to wear it tomorrow. :D

[dm106]

Very good that you caught the sizing issue and got him squared away - he would not have felt comfortable with it being too big on him most especially when it got wet. Hopefully he wears it - let us know, please.

[Captain.Jammer]

Fascinating thread. I am anxious to hear what happened Sunday night.

Thanks for sharing, SpeedoMom.

[7_of_Fine]

I remember my mother getting me my first pair of swim briefs. She had bought them without me, taking my undies as a size measurement. Now, she's full Japanese and i'm half (but raised culturally as full), so that in itself wasn't embarrassing, but the color she picked out... a hideous pepto-bismal pink/yellow/maroon plaid speedo. We went back out to return/exchange it for a plainer solid blue one. I still have that one in my dresser, even though my adult frame fills it beyond capacity (like a zeppelin in a condom or a bulldozer in a sausage casing).

[Torchwatch]

7_of_Fine as a partly Japanese family were you introduced to the fundoshi loincloth by your mother ?

[SpeedoMom]

Our first Sunday dinner since my son got his Speedo was unsuccessful. In addition to our family friends, their daughter invited a friend from school. My son was understandably reluctant to wear his brief. He'd brought his shorts and wore those instead. My friend's husband, however, donned his brief much to the delight of all involved. I figured the members of this forum might be interested in the brand, so I was able to find out it was a red Speedo Solar 1" brief. It left very little to the imagination when wet. ;)

Their daughter and her friend wore some of the skimpiest bikinis I've seen in recent memory. This was unusual, since their daughter has typically worn more modest bikinis. I guess minimal is the style these days. My son and I shared the pool house after we were done. He's been getting more comfortable being naked around me, but was a little embarrassed by the erection that was impossible to hide. He must have been pretty turned on by the girls suits. I assured him it was okay, and invited him to shower with me.

We met for dinner again the following week. This time, it was just the five of us. My son had packed his shorts and briefs again, so I wasn't sure what he'd choose. After dinner, my friend and I were chatting. I commented on the skimpy nature of her daughter's bikini the previous week. She told me she'd picked up a couple of similar bikinis on a shopping trip with her daughter. I wanted to see them, so we went upstairs.

They were quite similar to what her daughter and her friend had worn. My friend asked if I wanted to try them on. We're about the same size. I took one from her, took off my clothes, and put on the bikini. She laughed as I tried to pull the sides to cover my butt and said she'd done the same when she'd tried it on for the first time. They're just supposed to leave you mostly naked.

It was at this moment I saw my son in the doorway. He told us that the others wanted to use the hot tub, then asked if I was planning to wear the bikini. I think I will, I said. Then I told him to go change in the pool house. My friend put on the other bikini, and we met the rest of her family outside.

We all got into the hot tub. My son still hadn't come out. I was beginning to get worried, when the door to the pool house opened. He stepped out wearing his brief! I was so proud. He was a bit nervous at first, but quickly relaxed.

We had dinner again yesterday. This time, he didn't hesitate to wear his brief. He didn't even bring the shorts. I think my son may be a Speedo convert. :)

[tightjeans]

Hi SpeedoMom, Am wondering in what part of the country you live as some of the areas are much more anti speedo (men's swim briefs) than others. Regards, Tightjeans

[dm106]

That's great, speedomom. I can just imagine how the poor kid felt having an erection in front of mom. Even if he's reasonably comfortable being naked, I give him great kudos!

[SpeedoMom]

Hi SpeedoMom, Am wondering in what part of the country you live as some of the areas are much more anti speedo (men's swim briefs) than others. Regards, Tightjeans

We live on the West Coast.

[SpeedoMom]

That's great, speedomom. I can just imagine how the poor kid felt having an erection in front of mom. Even if he's reasonably comfortable being naked, I give him great kudos!

It is great! Although he's been more comfortable with being nude, he gets a bit embarrassed about having erections. He's left the room in a hurry to get dressed a few times. The last couple of weeks, though, he's been less worried about hiding them from me. Just a couple of days ago, he came into the kitchen for breakfast naked and erect. I don't mind. It's only natural. :)

[SpeedoMom]

It's been a while, so I thought I'd post a quick update.

Summer and swimsuit season are over, but my son's become a speedo convert. He still wears it to swim laps and is looking forward to wearing it next summer.

He's started taking classes at the local community college. His newfound confidence has helped him to meet new people. He's even got a girlfriend!

I assumed that'd be the end of his nude experimentation at home, but it's only amplified it. He still greets me for breakfast every morning naked as the day he was born.

Hope everyone here is well.

[Turbofan]

Both me and my boy rock the speeds all the time. There's been a few ocations where his buddie or buddies have been over and want to go swimming but don't have trunks. After a fair bit of cafuffle and some red faces they eventually squeeze into a brief.

5 minutes into it none of the boys cared they had a speedo on. There's been a few instances where a couple of his freinds never seem to ever remember their trunks, maybe cause they liked borrowing my boys swim briefs?...lol

I think our pool house has at least2-3 speedos from age 2-18 in thecomu al suit bin I never throw them out.

[7_of_Fine]

Torchwatch - no. I would not learn about fundoshi until much later from my dad. Both parents think they're silly and impractical, with my dad having the experience of having to try to use the restroom while wearing one during a Matsuri festival in Tokyo when he was dating my mom. All that wrapping and tying, I can understand, having tried it for myself. I might have liked it, had the fundoshi been something smoother like silk or satin, but way too much upkeep throughout the day, tightening and readjusting.

[SwimForHealth]

It's interesting to see the different directions in which boys and girls' suits go as they get older. My best friend and her husband have a daughter the same age as my son. We regularly have Sunday dinner at their house and frequently end the night with a dip in their hot tub.

When the kids started wearing swimsuits, my son was in a brief and their daughter wore a one piece suit. My son switched to shorts and then boardshorts. Their daughter eventually started wearing tankinis, then bikinis, and these days her swimsuit is practically a thong. He got more conservative as she got more, well, naked. ;)

I had coffee with my friend and mentioned my son's Speedo interest. She started laughing and told me she had a confession. Her husband is a Speedo lover! We've known each other since our kids were babies, and somehow I never knew. I almost didn't believe her, but she pulled up a vacation picture on her phone and there he was wearing only a Speedo. He only wears them in private. My friend has always been a bit embarrassed by them, so he keeps them hidden.

We have dinner plans next Sunday, so I asked if she thought he could wear them while we're there. She said she'd ask. I got a text from her later that said: "Speedo Sunday is on!"



My nephews prefer to swim in modest swimsuits. They wear rashtops and jammers even around the girls. The say they are shy swimming with girls.

[Chris997]

Lack of confidence is a deal breaker for many guys as they get older, as I'm a avid swimmer on a daily basis and I employ people I see a number of younger guys on the shop floor and can see they were active in some form of sport, they all know I swim and when I put it across to them to go swim they all reply in weird ways, nah I used in school and so on, turns out as they noticed they were starting to bulge out down there they got embarrassed and left the sport...how crazy is that and so can only deduce from this is that they like to compare with each other which I think is fine but must not be a deciding factor in leaving a sport because of it

[afewgoodmen]

Please take no offense, but OFCOURSE!

Don't you see all these Olympic athletes wearing the skimpies bikini/speedo suits?

I have several suits and love wearing them at the beach, in the pool and when I tan.

I don't give a hoot as to what anyone thinks.

I've been to beaches in Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, etc. and people do wear briefs/bikinis everywhere.

A lot are completely nude to.